‹ BackHN Continuity

Thread

The darker side of being a doctor

282 points · 342 comments · Danhale93

  1. osmukka · · focus · HN ↗
    Healthcare is the last industry that should be privatized. It should be for the public good rather than for the profit of few.
    1. panick21_ · · focus · HN ↗
      By that logic all food production and distribution should not be privatized because is should be for the public good rather then the profit of the few.

      There are are arguments to be made about private or public but that logic makes no sense.

      Some system that have many private aspects outperform other public systems and the other way around. And even in a public system many people will profit as many of the companies that are your suppliers are still for profit.

      1. dwb · · focus · HN ↗
        > By that logic all food production and distribution should not be privatized because is should be for the public good rather then the profit of the few.

        Sounds like good logic to me, at least for essentials!

        1. nradov · · focus · HN ↗
          Public ownership of food production always results in famines.

          <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Holodomor" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Holodomor

          1. dwb · · focus · HN ↗
            Saying “always” and then pointing to a single event doesn’t make sense.
            1. nradov · · focus · HN ↗
              <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Kazakh_famine_of_1930%E2%80%931933" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Kazakh_famine_of_1930%E2%80%93...

              <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.hrw.org&#x2F;reports&#x2F;2006&#x2F;northkorea0506&#x2F;1.htm" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.hrw.org&#x2F;reports&#x2F;2006&#x2F;northkorea0506&#x2F;1.htm

              <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ebsco.com&#x2F;research-starters&#x2F;history&#x2F;great-leap-forward-famine&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ebsco.com&#x2F;research-starters&#x2F;history&#x2F;great-leap-f...

              1. dwb · · focus · HN ↗
                You don’t have to read very far into each of these to see that the historical conditions in each are very different to any first-world country right now.
                1. nradov · · focus · HN ↗
                  You don&#x27;t seem to understand the cause and effect here. Adopting collectivist economic central planning would be an effective way to turn prosperous first-world countries into third-world shitholes.
                  1. dwb · · focus · HN ↗
                    None of the countries you’ve cited were prosperous first-world countries before the events described. And I didn’t necessarily advocate for central planning in the same way that Stalin or Mao directed it. I don’t pretend to be an expert in such things, but fundamentally I think we can do a lot better than how we organise things now, and that profit for natural monopolies is stupid. If you think that naturally entails famine, I think you have a sad lack of hope and imagination.
Open on Hacker News to reply ↗

Unofficial Hacker News client; not affiliated with Y Combinator.