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1. _joel · 1790155590 · focus · HN ↗

   Well they could have used Debian from the start. I get why, but it's such a strange argument, the way it's posited.

   1. bayindirh · 1790157068 · focus · HN ↗

      If I remember correctly, the reason why Scientific Linux was RHEL based instead of Debian because RedHat was a company and can pay them for services.

      We used to run it on our Grid nodes, and while it was not bad, it was not that smooth, either. It was a little kludgy but worked if you didn't diverge from the happy paths much.

      Now Debian has Extended Long Time Support via Freexian, I believe CERN has enough confidence to use Debian instead of RH family, and that will make lives of some people way easier. Debian is still easier to manage than RH based systems, and .deb is a really good package manager, and is arguably more sophisticated than RPM.

      1. _joel · 1790158060 · focus · HN ↗

         Yea, long time user of both here (I even supported ATLAS workloads running on our public UK cloud). Debian long-term is the right choice

         1. bayindirh · 1790158349 · focus · HN ↗

            We might have exchanged some mails back in the day probably, then. :D

            I'm in this for a couple of decades now.

            1. _joel · 1790158668 · focus · HN ↗

               Quite possibly! It was always a pleasure to see the ATLAS jobs running in a process list on an OpenStack hypervisor. We supported Lancaster University for compute (amongst others!).

               1. bayindirh · 1790158960 · focus · HN ↗

                  We ran and still run things bare-metal. If you remember the site names, we had quite a few TR-XX sites. I hailed from some of those.

                  Now a colleague of mine is handling these. I'm more on the OpenStack & HPC side for other stuff.

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