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  1. kelnos · · focus · HN ↗
    Ugh, looks like this only works if you pay for the Waymo with a Visa card, and also use that same Visa card to pay for transit. I don't use a credit card for transit in SF; I use my Clipper transit card.

    I get that integrating with the Clipper system is a lot more difficult, but... c'mon.

    1. smcin · · focus · HN ↗
      Yes. Smartphone vendors and CC prefer that you use contactless rather than a physical Clipper card, then they have data on your transit use, also the CC network gets transaction fees.

      FYI there was a very informative recent panel episode of Forum: "KQED Investigates Botched Clipper 2.0 Launch" (8/24/2026, audio + transcript)

      > KQED’s Azul Dahlstrom-Eckman joins us to talk about his investigation into what went wrong. Clipper 2.0 – a revamp of the payment system used across the [Bay Area] region’s 22 public transportation systems. The new version was supposed to allow seamless rides between systems and coordinate discounts and other programs. But..."

      <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.kqed.org&#x2F;forum&#x2F;2010101915014&#x2F;kqed-investigates-botched-clipper-2-0-launch" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.kqed.org&#x2F;forum&#x2F;2010101915014&#x2F;kqed-investigates-b...

      1. kelnos · · focus · HN ↗
        I do use a contactless Clipper card, on my phone. I don&#x27;t think this bit is relevant: getting Visa to correlate transactions is probably a lot easier for Waymo to get done than integrating with Clipper to see if you&#x27;ve ridden transit in the past two hours. That&#x27;s the same if you use a physical card or one on your phone.
        1. smcin · · focus · HN ↗
          I didn&#x27;t disagree with you. I&#x27;m saying the key findings in that Clipper 2.0 postmortem were much bigger than any single incentive program like this Waymo one would have been. Hence I can see why Waymo avoid integrating with Clipper.

          It said &quot;one of the most complex fare payment systems in the world: 22 different transit agencies across nine counties in the Bay Area... [with thousands of fare categories]&quot; And it&#x27;s a single-bidder $500m contract that was 3 years late.

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