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1. nomilk · 1790133002 · focus · HN ↗

   As is common in political shenanigans, the draft bill has a euphemistic label ('algorithmic opt-out') - what it actually does is allow unspecified bureaucrats such as the Minister for Communications to designate any individual piece of content as 'harmful' and have it banished from the internet.

   As an Australian who just wants relatively free access to information (and the ability to freely/easily discuss it), it's frustrating.

   And it's not the first time the Australian government has done this; last year they banned U16 from social media, several weeks later everyone was alerted to Bondi by... social media.. so they could get the heck out of there, but U16... they were left clueless and unable to get updates (news sites ran 30+ minutes behind real-time events and official sites like NSW Police took 70+ minutes to even announce there was a shooter).

   1. jeffybefffy519 · 1790139321 · focus · HN ↗

      How you went from U16 social media ban to the worst terrorist attack in AU history since port arthur therefore social media good is staggering...

      1. nomilk · 1790140455 · focus · HN ↗

         Suppose government had instead banned spare car tires. 99.99% of the time, we wouldn't notice. But during an emergency the effects of such a ban become apparent. Similar with the social media ban.

         Consider the situation for a 15 year-old on or nearby Bondi at the time of the attack. You hear.. fireworks?.. a car backfiring..? and meh, you continue sipping your iced matcha latte.

         Sometimes having the choice to learn/see/hear information matters. Very often (like with a spare tire ban) nobody even notices the ban - but at certain times, it really matters.

         1. jeffybefffy519 · 1790195776 · focus · HN ↗

            By your logic then, shouldn't algorithms be banned? If a U16 is going to turn to social media, and the feed is not in chronological order then how do we even guarantee that they will see what is happening in the moment when an algorithm is making the choice for them...

            Seems more like, if they see something suspicious or are worried about it - dont go to your phone, just leave the situation as fast as possible. As usual, education and critical thinking is the answer.

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