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The current balance of power in open models

132 points · 58 comments · gmays

  1. Zaraif13 · · focus · HN ↗
    It's becoming more clear that for big enterprises to really adopt AI, they need to use open models. Especially if they want to own their own intelligence, which they should.

    I spent the last 2 days building basic AI agents to automate some mundane supply chain workflows for a large company. Those seemingly boring workflows had bank statements, supplier IDs and other sensitive information.

    For me it was all alarm bells, there is no way they can afford to give closed models access to this data. I was compelled to figure out an open model based solution for them, which made me realize that this is probably the only way for enterprises going forward.

    1. bpodgursky · · focus · HN ↗
      I've actually flipped on this the last few days because of liability.

      The big labs are going to be on the hook for rogue behavior by Claude or Sol. Customers will be able to sue for damages and deflect regulators if their customer data is abused or their agents attack external services.

      If you use a Chinese OSS model and it goes rogue? Yeah good luck with that, your shop is 100% on the hook.

      1. the_sleaze_ · · focus · HN ↗
        > The big labs are going to be on the hook for rogue behavior

        They haven't so far.

        1. hghid · · focus · HN ↗
          I think the minute a big lab is found to be liable, the whole edifice along with trillions of dollars of investment and VC comes tumbling down. I think that is part of the reason the labs are pushing for more regulation. They can say "We're not liable, we complied with all of the regulations". The actions of multi-billion parameter models trained on data harvested from millions of Internet users over the years can never really be understood - if a business is found to be liable for that, then nobody would ever operate in that space.
          1. bpodgursky · · focus · HN ↗
            They are pushing for regulation because they are human being and don't want all human beings to die.

            I'm sorry you are so jaded you can't recognize honesty when you see it, but that is what everyone deep in the AI space, including the non-executive researchers, are worried about.

          2. plipt · · focus · HN ↗
            I heard a similar theory on CNBC's Squawk Box.

            Sorkin presented a theory that Nvidia bought HuggingFace to protect OpenAI from legal consequences. That a lawsuit determining accountability of actions by LLMs could threaten the AI financial network.

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