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59 points · 37 comments · jeremiahlee

  1. gavinray · · focus · HN ↗

      > "Agents can only maintain or INCREASE entropy in a system. Humans are uniquely capable of decreasing it"
    
    This is one of the most ridiculous statements I've ever read.
    1. cstever · · focus · HN ↗
      Can you expound on why "This is one of the most ridiculous statements I've ever read."? I think a deeper discussion into the capability of agents to decrease entropy would be very valuable.
      1. gavinray · · focus · HN ↗
        A program/repository is a big chunk of text

        Any text edits (insertions, deletions) that a human is capable of doing, so is an agent/LLM

        To think that reducing entropy/complexity in a system is some inherently human capability is both anthropo-centric and full of hubris.

        1. cstever · · focus · HN ↗
          I disagree. A program/repository is not a big chunk of text. It's more like logic to perform a particular function represented in text which is a symbol of language.

          "To think that reducing entropy/complexity in a system is some inherently human capability is both anthropo-centric and full of hubris."

          Humans invented LLMs and Agents etc, designed, programmed, etc. etc. Seems they are more an extension of humans -- tools that rely on humans.

          An LLM/Agent left to it's self on a code base does cause entropy. I've only ever seen them not cause entropy on the first prompt.

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