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Obscura: VPN that can't log your activity

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  1. maxloh · · focus · HN ↗
    I don't understand the point of this.

    Many (if not all) of the benefits on the landing page are available in Mullvad too, which is a more mature and reputable product, has all clients fully open-source, and powers the exit servers for Obscura.

    Why should I choose this over Mullvad?

    1. dongcarl · · focus · HN ↗
      We think Mullvad is a great privacy tool, which is why we partnered with them!

      As for what&#x27;s different: We&#x27;re a Multi-*Party* Relays (vs. traditional VPNs which are Single-Party Relays): <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.privacyguides.org&#x2F;articles&#x2F;2024&#x2F;11&#x2F;17&#x2F;where-are-all-the-mprs&#x2F;#a-solution-multi-party-relays" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.privacyguides.org&#x2F;articles&#x2F;2024&#x2F;11&#x2F;17&#x2F;where-are-...

      With Multi-Party Relays you no longer have a trust a single entity not being malicious or compromised. More on this here: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;obscura.com&#x2F;#how" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;obscura.com&#x2F;#how

      Also, all our apps are open-source as well: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;Sovereign-Engineering&#x2F;obscuravpn-client" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;Sovereign-Engineering&#x2F;obscuravpn-client

      Disclaimer: I&#x27;m the creator of Obscura.

      1. frizlab · · focus · HN ↗
        How do you compare with iCloud Private Relay (with the obvious exception that private relay only works on macOS, and in specific apps only)?
        1. dongcarl · · focus · HN ↗
          We&#x27;re heavily inspired by them (see our original blog post which is a bit more technical here: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;obscura.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;bootstrapping-trust&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;obscura.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;bootstrapping-trust&#x2F;)

          The differences are:

          - We allow you to choose an exit location (I believe iCloud Private Relay restricts you to the same location)

          - Our exit hop is Mullvad instead of Cloudflare+Fastly+Akamai

          - We use QUIC for transport instead of HTTP&#x2F;3 (which is built on QUIC and has a bit more overhead)

          1. Barbing · · focus · HN ↗
            Same country at least - the iCloud Private Relay options, iOS:

            “1: Maintain general location

            2: Use country and time zone

            Maintain your general location to receive localized content, or enhance your privacy by using a broader IP address based on your country and time zone.

            Safari Private Browsing always uses an IP location from your country and time zone.”

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