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Obscura: VPN that can't log your activity

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  1. maxloh · · focus · HN ↗
    I don't understand the point of this.

    Many (if not all) of the benefits on the landing page are available in Mullvad too, which is a more mature and reputable product, has all clients fully open-source, and powers the exit servers for Obscura.

    Why should I choose this over Mullvad?

    1. maxloh · · focus · HN ↗
      Mullvad is a Swedish company, which has stricter privacy protection laws in place.

      According to Obscura's legal page, it is a New York-based company [0]. Under US law, a secretive court order could compel a US company to update software or implement targeted logging on a specific user without notifying that user.

      The only scenario where Obscura would be useful is if Mullvad were compromised. Why would I trust a New York company to shield me from a more reputable Swedish company?

      [0]: &quot;(2) your written notification must be mailed to 169 Madison Ave.; Ste. 11185 PMB 63183; New York, NY 10016...&quot; <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;obscura.com&#x2F;legal&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;obscura.com&#x2F;legal&#x2F;

      1. ignoramous · · focus · HN ↗
        I wouldn&#x27;t be so sure; Ex A: The terrifying expansion of Sweden’s state surveillance, <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;edri.org&#x2F;our-work&#x2F;the-terrifying-expansion-of-swedens-state-surveillance" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;edri.org&#x2F;our-work&#x2F;the-terrifying-expansion-of-sweden...
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