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Unreal Agent

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tapoxi · 1790105156 · focus · HN ↗
Sounds like a trademark issue when Epic ships a wildly popular Unreal Engine
1. orliesaurus · 1790105289 · focus · HN ↗
  But I don't think you can trademark a generic word like Unreal...
  1. ramesh31 · 1790106211 · focus · HN ↗
    >"But I don't think you can trademark a generic word like Unreal..."
    Sure you can, trademarks are contextual. If they were a landscaping business it wouldn't matter. But within the same industry absolutely.
    orliesaurus · 1790115962 · focus · HN ↗
    I guess? but we are talking Game engine vs AI harness...
    heimidal · 1790116635 · focus · HN ↗
    The USPTO really isn't interested in those sorts of semantics. This would be a slam dunk for Epic.
  2. neuronexmachina · 1790106422 · focus · HN ↗
    They've trademarked it for quite a few closely-related domains: <a href="https://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=87709072&caseSearchType=US_APPLICATION&caseType=DEFAULT&searchType=statusSearch" rel="nofollow">https://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=87709072&caseSearchType=U...
    >Computer software, namely, game engine software for video game development and operation; Computer software, namely, software development tools for the creation of computer-generated imagery and graphics for the production of video games; Computer software, namely, software development tools for the creation of computer-generated imagery and graphics for the production of content for virtual worlds and 3D platforms; Computer software, namely, software development tools for the creation of computer-generated imagery and graphics for the production of motion pictures, television shows, videos, 3D animations, 3D simulations, 3D visualizations, virtual reality motion pictures, virtual reality television shows; Computer software, namely, software development tools for the creation of computer-generated imagery and graphics for the production of virtual reality video games; Virtual reality game software; Virtual reality software for creating multimedia content; Augmented reality game software; Augmented reality software for use in mobile devices for integrating electronic data with real world environments for the purposes of entertainment
    willy_k · 1790108019 · focus · HN ↗
    Those do all seem directly tied to what Unreal Engine does i.e. graphics
  3. mey · 1790106916 · focus · HN ↗
    Apple? <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Corps_v_Apple_Computer" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Corps_v_Apple_Computer
    ompogUe · 1790108916 · focus · HN ↗
    <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sosumi" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sosumi
    [deleted] · 1790109446 · focus · HN ↗
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    swiftcoder · 1790145917 · focus · HN ↗
    iPhone? <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPhone_(trademark)" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPhone_(trademark)
  4. llm_nerd · 1790108233 · focus · HN ↗
    Unreal is trademarked. This is not in question. And personally I 100% thought this was an agent specifically for dealing with the Unreal Engine, and was interpreting all of that information in that context. Very weird name for a company/product.
    seanalltogether · 1790108741 · focus · HN ↗
    Same, I thought this was going to be a plugin for creating content in Unreal engine.
    NolF · 1790119905 · focus · HN ↗
    Same. Specially given how some harnesses connect with blender for 3D asset generation and creating real 3D worlds like those architecture examples but many of the 1-shot game examples too.
    Applejinx · 1790121216 · focus · HN ↗
    Likewise. This seems to be the norm for AI people: act as if.
  5. pixl97 · 1790115156 · focus · HN ↗
    It doesn't matter if they can or can't, it only matters if you can afford the lawsuit.
  6. max-privatevoid · 1790192968 · focus · HN ↗
    An XR glasses company, Nreal, changed their name to XREAL, allegedly because of Epic Games.
2. bryant · 1790110194 · focus · HN ↗
  I had to scroll to the bottom to realize that this had absolutely nothing to do with Unreal Engine or Epic. There's no reason to think that Epic wouldn't have an "Unreal Labs" creating harnesses to help them with software engineering.
  This plainly seems like a trademark issue in progress considering it's in the same exact domain and considering how many others were confused the way I probably was.
  1. nosyke · 1790110394 · focus · HN ↗
    yep, can confirm i was confused too
  2. esher · 1790152373 · focus · HN ↗
    I liked the 3D effects on the homepage of unreal labs <a href="https://unreallabs.ai/" rel="nofollow">https://unreallabs.ai/ - so I was sure it's related to 3D engine makers, and of course great idea to have an agent for that too.
3. tantalor · 1790116936 · focus · HN ↗
  lol it took me to read this comment to find out this has nothing to do with Unreal.
  People, I'm begging you, please talk to a lawyer before launching.
4. cantalopes · 1790166332 · focus · HN ↗
  i mean unreal is such a generic word, i doubt it epic would win the lawsuit
  1. j_w · 1790175257 · focus · HN ↗
    Maybe if UnrealLabs were a banana company. But they are a software company. The trademark they have on "Unreal" is for computer software and lists a bunch of domains related to the software development of video games/3d models.
5. wannabe44 · 1790168738 · focus · HN ↗
  Suggestion: rename it to "Unreliable Agent"
6. MisterMunchkin · 1790187282 · focus · HN ↗
  Yeah there’s no way they can use this name for software, it is a complete ripoff of their brand

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