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GPT-6 Sol and Luna

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  1. simonw · · focus · HN ↗
    GPT-6 Luna being half the price of GPT-5.6 Luna is a really big deal.

    Here&#x27;s GPT-6 Luna pelicans: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;tools.simonwillison.net&#x2F;markdown-svg-renderer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgist.github.com%2Fsimonw%2F40d129fc140faca378b9c9f4f16c6ec2" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;tools.simonwillison.net&#x2F;markdown-svg-renderer?url=ht...

    And GPT-6 Sol: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;tools.simonwillison.net&#x2F;markdown-svg-renderer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgist.github.com%2Fsimonw%2Fbe7ae25af2634b68bc34b7b7aaf02cb2" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;tools.simonwillison.net&#x2F;markdown-svg-renderer?url=ht...

    Scroll to the bottom for the GPT-6 Sol max one: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;tools.simonwillison.net&#x2F;markdown-svg-renderer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgist.github.com%2Fsimonw%2Fbe7ae25af2634b68bc34b7b7aaf02cb2#response-5" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;tools.simonwillison.net&#x2F;markdown-svg-renderer?url=ht...

    For comparison, here are the pelicans I got for GPT-6 Astra: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;tools.simonwillison.net&#x2F;markdown-svg-renderer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgist.github.com%2Fsimonw%2Ff789d2784fc6c5b870cc80f0b7cd9d01" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;tools.simonwillison.net&#x2F;markdown-svg-renderer?url=ht... - I still like the Astra Max one best.

    Here&#x27;s a comparison grid showing all of the GPT-6 and GPT-5.6 pelicans at all effort levels: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;static.simonwillison.net&#x2F;static&#x2F;2026&#x2F;gpt-6-and-5.6.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;static.simonwillison.net&#x2F;static&#x2F;2026&#x2F;gpt-6-and-5.6.h...

    The grid is actually really interesting, because it shows that the 5.6 family default to brighter colors than the 6 family.

    1. gizmodo59 · · focus · HN ↗
      6-luna is at the pareto for most of the tasks! I dont know how they make money here but its insane value from a closed source model. I&#x27;d go further and say it makes no sense (privacy, sovereignty etc aside) to use many other models as its not only expensive but also many providers don&#x27;t have that much GPUs to serve at a significant volume. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;openrouter.ai&#x2F;rankings?view=month#top-models" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;openrouter.ai&#x2F;rankings?view=month#top-models 5.6 luna is already the most used model this month.
      1. booty · · focus · HN ↗

            I dont know how they make money here
        
        Well, here&#x27;s the neat thing: they don&#x27;t!

        Snark aside, Luna 5.6 was (is) an incredible game-changer.

        1. adventured · · focus · HN ↗
          Luna is about suppressing inexpensive Chinese model competition.

          It&#x27;s super simple.

          Gigantic hyper margin ad network = artificial subsidization of cost for various tiers = put the boot on the neck of Chinese competitors. There&#x27;s no scenario where they can compete with what advertising margins make possible in terms of artificially lowering prices charged.

          1. mordae · · focus · HN ↗
            Chinese buy 3x more tokens than west. At home.
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