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GPT-6 Sol and Luna

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  1. simonw · · focus · HN ↗
    GPT-6 Luna being half the price of GPT-5.6 Luna is a really big deal.

    Here&#x27;s GPT-6 Luna pelicans: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;tools.simonwillison.net&#x2F;markdown-svg-renderer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgist.github.com%2Fsimonw%2F40d129fc140faca378b9c9f4f16c6ec2" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;tools.simonwillison.net&#x2F;markdown-svg-renderer?url=ht...

    And GPT-6 Sol: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;tools.simonwillison.net&#x2F;markdown-svg-renderer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgist.github.com%2Fsimonw%2Fbe7ae25af2634b68bc34b7b7aaf02cb2" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;tools.simonwillison.net&#x2F;markdown-svg-renderer?url=ht...

    Scroll to the bottom for the GPT-6 Sol max one: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;tools.simonwillison.net&#x2F;markdown-svg-renderer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgist.github.com%2Fsimonw%2Fbe7ae25af2634b68bc34b7b7aaf02cb2#response-5" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;tools.simonwillison.net&#x2F;markdown-svg-renderer?url=ht...

    For comparison, here are the pelicans I got for GPT-6 Astra: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;tools.simonwillison.net&#x2F;markdown-svg-renderer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgist.github.com%2Fsimonw%2Ff789d2784fc6c5b870cc80f0b7cd9d01" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;tools.simonwillison.net&#x2F;markdown-svg-renderer?url=ht... - I still like the Astra Max one best.

    Here&#x27;s a comparison grid showing all of the GPT-6 and GPT-5.6 pelicans at all effort levels: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;static.simonwillison.net&#x2F;static&#x2F;2026&#x2F;gpt-6-and-5.6.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;static.simonwillison.net&#x2F;static&#x2F;2026&#x2F;gpt-6-and-5.6.h...

    The grid is actually really interesting, because it shows that the 5.6 family default to brighter colors than the 6 family.

    1. gizmodo59 · · focus · HN ↗
      6-luna is at the pareto for most of the tasks! I dont know how they make money here but its insane value from a closed source model. I&#x27;d go further and say it makes no sense (privacy, sovereignty etc aside) to use many other models as its not only expensive but also many providers don&#x27;t have that much GPUs to serve at a significant volume. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;openrouter.ai&#x2F;rankings?view=month#top-models" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;openrouter.ai&#x2F;rankings?view=month#top-models 5.6 luna is already the most used model this month.
      1. sieve · · focus · HN ↗
        My OpenCode Go stats for the last 30d:

        Cached Read: ~6,500M

        Input: ~150M

        Output: ~20M

        Approx $40 worth of usage across DeepSeek V4 Flash + MuseSpark Contributor 1.3. And a bit of both the GLM models. This is covered in a $10 subscription.

        If I were to use Luna&#x27;s API pricing:

        $0.02 x 6,500 = $130

        $0.20 x 150 = $30

        $1.20 x 20 = $24

        So $184. And this is assuming smaller coding sessions (&lt;272K) beyond which Luna pricing doubles.

        --

        Cost wise, these models are nice for small stuff. Translations etc. Any model that does not provide multiple Mtoks of cached reads per cent is not very useful to me for coding workflows.

        1. MitziMoto · · focus · HN ↗
          These are also the orders of magnitude of our production agents for our business (NOT coding). Cache reads are so heavy compared to anything else that it&#x27;s the only price point that really matters, regular input and output are negligible.

          I need aggressive cache read pricing with full prompt_cache_key support to have a model be financially viable for our workload. Right now Meta Muse 1.3 Contributor is the only one that makes sense--but we are starting Evals on the new MiMo 2.6 class to see how it holds up.

          1. gleenn · · focus · HN ↗
            Last I heard, caches had like a 5 minute TTL... doesn&#x27;t that mean if you get up and make a coffee (hand pour over of course), that you are back at full price?
            1. MitziMoto · · focus · HN ↗

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