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1. badatnames · 1790100636 · focus · HN ↗

   It's asking a lot to trust they can or will maintain this new pricing. In any case it's exciting to think this might lead to further price cuts in the highly competent and competitive Chinese clones. I'm still using ChatGPT for interactive queries, but at this point pretty much only because of its familiar UI

   1. chaos_emergent · 1790100981 · focus · HN ↗

      Curious why you think it's unsustainable?

      1. badatnames · 1790101440 · focus · HN ↗

         Because at some point keeping it up involves filing an S-1 that doesn't look like a garbage fire

         1. wyre · 1790101513 · focus · HN ↗

            Didn't SpaceX already set a precedence for garbage fire S-1s? I don't think OpenAI has to worry about that?

            1. badatnames · 1790101822 · focus · HN ↗

               SpaceX is a different beast with extremely high friction to enter its market, a massive technology lead, and well developed preferential high level relationships with just about every country worth worrying about.

               OpenAI/Anthropic meanwhile feel a bit like they're hoping to sell iPhones in a market about to be flooded by $20 flip phones, with almost no channel of their own to do it. And for whatever mad reason OpenAI are now signalling they will attempt to compete on price with flip phones despite their cost of labour, energy, and just about everything else being far higher

               1. wyre · 1790104380 · focus · HN ↗

                  Wasn't SpaceX's insane valuation largely based off of Grok, because their rocket and satellite businesses could never be valued at over a trillion $$?

                  I don't see your metaphor to iphones and flip phones. This new Luna model is cheaper than deepseek 4.1 flash, except for cache reads. OpenAI having to compete with China is a much larger economic-political issue that is far larger than just our AI labs.

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