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There's a high chance of devices being sold with GrapheneOS preinstalled in 2027

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  1. microtonal · · focus · HN ↗
    Two clarifications:

    - This is about preinstallation. For the planned models, you can install GrapheneOS yourself. This should be really simple, if it is similar to the current installation process for Pixels, which can be fully completed through their website.

    - The preinstalled devices don't seem from Motorola themselves, as mentioned later in the thread: Probably not via their website but rather another company provided with the devices directly by Motorola. It could be us doing it ourselves but we aren't set up to deal with it.

    Really excited for the Motorola GrapheneOS phones! (Currently have a P10P with GrapheneOS.)

    1. EmbarrassedHelp · · focus · HN ↗
      I'd love to see the GrapheneOS team gaining enough resources to hire developers who can work to increase the number of supported devices. The more devices that are supported (even if security is not at the same level as Pixel/Motorola hardware), as the more popular GrapheneOS becomes, the harder it will be for governments to target it.
      1. palata · · focus · HN ↗
        My understanding is that the problem is not on GrapheneOS' side. We need more manufacturers to care and build devices that meet GrapheneOS' requirements.

        My hope is that Motorola will be very successful with that. GrapheneOS currently has half a million users and growing. The more users it gets, the more interesting it is for manufacturers to actually consider it.

        Google being Google, if Motorola gets a relatively cheap phone to run GrapheneOS (the flagship is quite expensive IMHO), I think people will flock away from Pixels (I definitely will, and I will tell everyone and their dog that they should when they renew their phone).

        1. upboundspiral · · focus · HN ↗
          Define cheaply.

          Sub 200 is immediately off the table but a refurbished pixel last time I checked was about $400 post tax. They have long (7 years now) support windows now which is also a bonus.

          1. microtonal · · focus · HN ↗
            Pixel A series are often under 400 here new.
          2. subscribed · · focus · HN ↗
            Refurbished Pixel 7 pro (EOL next year) or Pixel 8 (EOL 2030) is £200-240 here.
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