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There's a high chance of devices being sold with GrapheneOS preinstalled in 2027

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  1. movsx · · focus · HN ↗
    Might someone know whether banking apps worldwide will work?
    1. drnick1 · · focus · HN ↗
      Probably not, because of Google attestation, the cancer of Android.
      1. microtonal · · focus · HN ↗
        My banks (in Europe) work fine. The primary thing that is missing is tap-to-pay because Google is abusing its monopoly position and not letting GrapheneOS pass remote attestation. There are some apps that have their own tap-to-pay, such as Curve in most of Europe and PayPal in Germany, but they don't work great everywhere (e.g. where I live, all payment terminals accept tap-to-pay based on debit cards, but more than 50% does not accept credit card-based tap-to-pay, so something like Curve or Garmin Pay doesn't work in many stores).

        At any rate, there is a well-maintained list here: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;privsec.dev&#x2F;posts&#x2F;android&#x2F;banking-applications-compatibility-with-grapheneos&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;privsec.dev&#x2F;posts&#x2F;android&#x2F;banking-applications-compa...

        1. adikso · · focus · HN ↗
          I didn&#x27;t notice anything suggesting that Curve is &quot;credit card-based&quot; (from what I remember it was advertising debit in EMV). Curve worked for me everywhere in Poland, Czechia, Germany, Austria, Romania and Sweden.
          1. lazzurs · · focus · HN ↗
            Curve currently works great for me but I am hoping Walt will launch soon.

            <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;walt.is&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;walt.is&#x2F;

            1. Cider9986 · · focus · HN ↗
              Deceptive marketing about privacy but it can&#x27;t be worse than the other options.
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