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There's a high chance of devices being sold with GrapheneOS preinstalled in 2027

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Cider9986 · 1790097482 · focus · HN ↗
The upcoming Signature 27 will be announced today at the Snapdragon Summit. It has been teased by Motorola on their socials and will likely release in the US because they've posted about it on US social accounts.
The 2026 Signature, in the UK, is $1460 USD. In Brazil it is selling for $1230. The Pixel 11 pro XL, which the Signature beats on hardware in practically every way sells for $1300 on Google's website.
It looks interesting... I didn't love the 2026 design [1] but it looks better than whatever this is. Here's pictures:
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[1] <a href="https://www.motorola.com/gb/en/p/phones/motorola-signature/signature/pmipmje43mf?pn=PBAB0000GB" rel="nofollow">https://www.motorola.com/gb/en/p/phones/motorola-signature/s...
1. _aavaa_ · 1790098528 · focus · HN ↗
  That’s not saying much. The selling point of pixels has always been the software.
  1. horsawlarway · 1790099081 · focus · HN ↗
    The selling point of graphene is basically that you get the pixel software experience.
    It just puts Google in the same sandbox Google puts everyone else.
    Typing this on a pixel running graphene.
    drnick1 · 1790099933 · focus · HN ↗
    > It just puts Google in the same sandbox Google puts everyone else.
    Yes, you can do that, but Graphene is probably best used without Google apps at all. If you use Google Maps, sandboxed or not, Google still knows where you are, what speed you drive, etc, and can rat you out to car insurance companies or the government.
    microtonal · 1790100613 · focus · HN ↗
    Yes, you can do that, but Graphene is probably best used without Google apps at all.
    That totally depends on your goals. For some it's security, for some it's privacy from Google, for some it's removing the ability from Google to (worst case) remote brick/block your device. The latter may sound a bit far fetched, but if I was employed by, say the ICJ, I would know what system I'd run to avoid that.
    One of the things that I like about GrapheneOS is that it accommodates all these use cases and on a gradient (e.g. personally privacy from Google is also important, but I like that I can use sandboxed Google Play Services with most of its permissions removed).

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