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There's a high chance of devices being sold with GrapheneOS preinstalled in 2027

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Cider9986 · 1790097482 · focus · HN ↗
The upcoming Signature 27 will be announced today at the Snapdragon Summit. It has been teased by Motorola on their socials and will likely release in the US because they've posted about it on US social accounts.
The 2026 Signature, in the UK, is $1460 USD. In Brazil it is selling for $1230. The Pixel 11 pro XL, which the Signature beats on hardware in practically every way sells for $1300 on Google's website.
It looks interesting... I didn't love the 2026 design [1] but it looks better than whatever this is. Here's pictures:
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[1] <a href="https://www.motorola.com/gb/en/p/phones/motorola-signature/signature/pmipmje43mf?pn=PBAB0000GB" rel="nofollow">https://www.motorola.com/gb/en/p/phones/motorola-signature/s...
1. asdff · 1790097993 · focus · HN ↗
  Flagship phones are so damn expensive for what you are getting. I just buy whatever is the current iphone SE which is usually around $300 for the top storage sku when I show up to buy it a couple years after release. At my current burn rate $1300 would be like 20 years spend on phones for me.
  1. SapporoChris · 1790099782 · focus · HN ↗
    What stopped me from buying flagship phones is the repair costs for phones are far too expensive in relationship to the value of the phone. Results will vary, but waterproofing usually diminishes after a repair.
    Lord_Zero · 1790099980 · focus · HN ↗
    Eh... get protection plan, or trade up every year for big discount on the next flagship. Or with AT&T plans you are getting a "free" phone fairly often if you don't intend to leave the carrier for a few years (most people wont). The parent comment you replied to makes some assumptions that you have to spend full price all at once every year which is false. Also, there's almost always a deep discount on Pixel phones around most holidays.
    And if you truly are ultra budget $300 phone guy then sure this doesn't apply to you.
    ahartmetz · 1790237744 · focus · HN ↗
    You sound like you spend a lot of money on phones, and what for? By the way, there are $100 phones - $300 isn't ultra budget. I tend to use $300 phones for about five years; they come with some excess performance when new that allows that.
    bityard · 1790101953 · focus · HN ↗
    I am not the right market for flagship phones because I don't have thousands of dollars to put towards disposable income, but I would expect a premium phone to come with a premium warranty and repair service... Do they typically not?
    hirako2000 · 1790105219 · focus · HN ↗
    No they don't. Even waterproof phones damage due to simple water spill get denied warranty (even from Apple).
    avree · 1790111008 · focus · HN ↗
    <a href="https://www.apple.com/applecare/" rel="nofollow">https://www.apple.com/applecare/
    AppleCare specifically covers water damage of any kind, and is what I would assume OP would be referring to as a "premium warranty and repair service".
    hirako2000 · 1790112922 · focus · HN ↗
    That isn't my read.
    ApplecCare is as much a warranty as their Apple's phone are guaranteed waterproof.
    It's marketing.
    The 3 year warranty add-ons is an insurance. One can get an insurance for any device.
    lesuorac · 1790123869 · focus · HN ↗
    AppleCare isn't a warranty (as the other poster points out).
    The standard iPhone warranty disclaims water damage [1] and Apple has been sued in the past for using humidity activated sensors.
    [1]: <a href="https://support.apple.com/en-us/109350" rel="nofollow">https://support.apple.com/en-us/109350

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