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Aging may be a program, not a breakdown

83 points · 88 comments · elo2000

  1. aeturnum · · focus · HN ↗
    There are animals that don't "age"[1] so of course it's programmed. There's a balance between how often you want to recombine genetics and how long you want to be able to remember. It seems like a better system would have humans decline differently (i.e. no dementia) but having people grow old is almost certainly beneficial to the species.

    [1] Their risk of death does not increase after reaching adulthood. I.e. every year after adulthood has the same risk of unexpected death. Humans and other animals that age have their risks of death climb in "old" age.

    1. noosphr · · focus · HN ↗
      The animals are wildly simple however. It may well be that ageless is only possible before you develop a brain.
      1. aeturnum · · focus · HN ↗
        Naked mole rats are social animals that live in colonies. There are differences of course, but I do not think the evidence suggests that aging is a 'requirement' for complexity. The simplest explanation is that aging is an evolutionary adaption that gives species that age an advantage. Human cells obviously possess the potential to persist past their programmed deaths - that's what cancer is. So I think it's obvious there are no biological limits to us stopping our physical age at whatever stage we want - but I'm equally sure that would involve changes to the experience of being human we may not like (perhaps being in the body of a 20 year old means being in the mind of a 20 year old, for instance).
        1. noosphr · · focus · HN ↗
          They seem to have a biological clock and are just more isolated from the effects of aging. Humans are similar that we live three to four times as long as other great apes.
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