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OpenAI is well positioned to fast-follow Jev

328 points · 233 comments · JohnBerryman

  1. orbital-decay · · focus · HN ↗
    Every major AI shop has a ton of in-house classifiers already, big, small, generalist, specialized. Some are used in inference pipelines (e.g. safeguards), some are used in data preparation, training, analysis and investigation, research, various one-off and intermediate tasks etc. Offering them on a public API doesn't always make business sense. I don't see much substance to this buzz, looks like people that are new to all this are discovering that classifiers exist, they are more efficient at classification, and many tasks commonly done with generative models are classification in disguise. Which is not bad at all, a fresh look at their use is great to have.
    1. EagnaIonat · · focus · HN ↗
      I fed into the hype at first. Testing Jev and Laya, they both suffer from the same issues as LLMs that stop them being useful beyond limited classifications.

      I can't see any benefits that a typical ML classifier would not be better at.

      1. ainch · · focus · HN ↗
        I think the main argument would just be that because the model is general, you don't need to retrain it from scratch for a new problem - just tweak the input prompt. For a typical classifier there's a lot more hassle - collecting the data, training it yourself, retraining under distribution shift... In that sense Jev seems great for prototyping or small-scale use cases.
        1. EagnaIonat · · focus · HN ↗
          Training a classification model is trivial these days, even for a number far bigger than what Jev can do.
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