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Apple has added persistent 'ads' to iOS, and it's driving users crazy

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  1. AnonC · · focus · HN ↗
    I doubt John Ternus will change direction anytime soon, since it will look like he’s reversing the plethora of eyesore ads that Tim Cook added over his tenure.

    But the Apple with ads is not the Apple that had some taste and discernment in the past. For a long time I’ve visited the App Store’s app update page directly (tap and hold on App Store icon to see the context menu option). Anytime I inadvertently go to the App Store home page or the few times I search, it’s an ad filled disaster!

    From this article

    > repeatedly attempting to prod customers towards even more of the company’s products might seem cheap, even distasteful.

    From a recent post by John Gruber:

    > Steve Jobs in 2011: 'We Build Products That We Want for Ourselves, Too, and We Just Don't Want Ads' [1]

    Looks like Tim Cook, John Ternus and Eddy Cue really enjoy being swamped with ads in their products. Will there soon be a time when Apple executives start carrying some other brand’s devices with them to avoid having a rotten experience?

    [1]: We don’t want ads <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;daringfireball.net&#x2F;linked&#x2F;2026&#x2F;07&#x2F;28&#x2F;jobs-we-dont-want-ads" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;daringfireball.net&#x2F;linked&#x2F;2026&#x2F;07&#x2F;28&#x2F;jobs-we-dont-wa...

    1. godelski · · focus · HN ↗
      I knew we were cooked when Costco started upselling its cookies at the self-checkout food court.

      I think it really speaks to the situation we&#x27;ve gotten ourselves into. Capitalism requires us to constantly grow but I think the problem is we&#x27;re myopic and believe we need to grow faster and faster. With the high concentration of power these companies have the easiest lever to pull is by making a service worse and having users pay for a better experience. That&#x27;s a very different strategy than offering new products and&#x2F;or features.

      I call this myopic because it really only works when there&#x27;s little to no competition but using it too much causes more backlash and causes people to get pissed enough to become the competition (and not sell out). I think Pournelle&#x27;s Iron Law of Bureaucracy comes into play here. People aren&#x27;t aligned with the goals of the organization. To be honest, it&#x27;s hard to think of any company where it&#x27;s clear the leaders, let alone employees, are dedicated to the goals of the company[0].

      It&#x27;s really sad too, since all these big companies seem to just be a shell of what they used to be. They used to be inspiring and it was exciting to see all the change and innovation. But it just seems to be more and more disappointment lately. Small changes so people can push their small org&#x27;s status. No one taking any risks to really push things forward. These companies cornered the markets, have trillion dollar evaluations, yet act like they&#x27;re poor. That boy ain&#x27;t right...

      [0] don&#x27;t give me that nonsense of &quot;the goal is to make money&quot;. The comment is about myopia. If this is your first reaction, you&#x27;re being myopic and missing my point. You&#x27;re welcome to disagree, but don&#x27;t strawman

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