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Apple has added persistent 'ads' to iOS, and it's driving users crazy

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  1. AnonC · · focus · HN ↗
    I doubt John Ternus will change direction anytime soon, since it will look like he’s reversing the plethora of eyesore ads that Tim Cook added over his tenure.

    But the Apple with ads is not the Apple that had some taste and discernment in the past. For a long time I’ve visited the App Store’s app update page directly (tap and hold on App Store icon to see the context menu option). Anytime I inadvertently go to the App Store home page or the few times I search, it’s an ad filled disaster!

    From this article

    > repeatedly attempting to prod customers towards even more of the company’s products might seem cheap, even distasteful.

    From a recent post by John Gruber:

    > Steve Jobs in 2011: 'We Build Products That We Want for Ourselves, Too, and We Just Don't Want Ads' [1]

    Looks like Tim Cook, John Ternus and Eddy Cue really enjoy being swamped with ads in their products. Will there soon be a time when Apple executives start carrying some other brand’s devices with them to avoid having a rotten experience?

    [1]: We don’t want ads <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;daringfireball.net&#x2F;linked&#x2F;2026&#x2F;07&#x2F;28&#x2F;jobs-we-dont-want-ads" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;daringfireball.net&#x2F;linked&#x2F;2026&#x2F;07&#x2F;28&#x2F;jobs-we-dont-wa...

    1. api · · focus · HN ↗
      Ad revenue is bad revenue if you&#x27;re going for the high end of the market. If it has ads, it&#x27;s crap.

      Apple has all but conquered the high end of the market, but that ad revenue... it&#x27;s so tempting... soooo tempting... just one hit...

      1. malfist · · focus · HN ↗
        What are you going to do? Switch to android which has even more ads?

        What we need is antitrust enforcement so there are other options and more competition. The free market can&#x27;t fix anything if the market is just a race to the bottom between two companies

        1. curt15 · · focus · HN ↗
          At least Android allows truly alternative web browsers with ad blockers that aren&#x27;t handicapped by Manifestv3 limitations.
          1. Teever · · focus · HN ↗
            I use the Orion browser on my iPhone and it doesn’t have ads.

            I also don’t install the YouTube app so I use the browser to visit the YouTube site and have an ad free experience and can even have audio playing on it while the screen is off or I’m in another app so it’s an objectively better experience than using an android device with the YouTube app that is automatically installed on it.

            1. microtonal · · focus · HN ↗
              it’s an objectively better experience than using an android device with the YouTube app that is automatically installed on it

              It&#x27;s not better than YouTube after Morphe. Morphe is an app that can patch other apps. It makes the official YouTube app nice by removing ads, skipping over sponsored segments, remove tracking from links, improves the player, etc.

              Would be extremely hard to do something similar on iOS.

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