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1. fedeb95 · 1790088079 · focus · HN ↗

   I have been a long time Android fan because of the tinkering you could do more easily than Apple. Then I started appreciating some of the design decisions behind especially iPhone, and it's been almost 7 years of iPhone usage.

   Recently I am starting to question some of the design decisions. Most native apps are bloated with functionalities, most of the time useless. Ads pop up everywhere, even before persistence; iCloud and backups are clearly designed to make you pay, the free space is useless.

   I am not that sure my next phone will be an iPhone.

   I have tried a recent Mac, and the system isn't intuitive at all. The first time I used GNOME, it was a breeze. Not the same with the MacBook system.

   1. OptionX · 1790088956 · focus · HN ↗

      IPhone users switching to android due to enshitification and android users switching to iPhone due to the locking down of third-party apps and if you're forced into a walled garden might as well go to brushed aluminum one.

      Basically everyone is getting shafted.

      1. LetMeLogin · 1790089550 · focus · HN ↗

         Agreed, I swapped to iPhone about 4 years ago, because I couldn't find a phone for myself from a tons of options(one company did that, another did something else, etc..).

         iPhone is nice, but it has its quirks and stupidities. Android is nice, but has some other stuff I don't like.

         I wish there would be a third option that would take the best of those two worlds.

         1. VohuMana · 1790095489 · focus · HN ↗

            I honestly miss my Windows Phone, solid performance and battery life. The platform was never big enough for there to be much issue with third party apps and I could write what ever software I wanted and load it onto the phone without too much pain.

            I’m almost in the market for a new phone and I wish there were more options than Android/iPhone. I’m looking at maybe going for a GrapheneOS phone of some sort though

      2. warkdarrior · 1790089667 · focus · HN ↗

         Wasn't Google ordered by courts to low third party app stores? So more freedom?

         1. qlte · 1790187335 · focus · HN ↗

            There have been third party app stores on Android pretty much forever.

            Including app stores installed out of the box on GMS certified devices like the Samsung Galaxy Store (alongside the Play Store).

            It just means they will be easier to install via the Play Store without sideloading (making other commercial stores more attractive but not really my cup of tea), and some minor API changes (although auto updating was added even before the ruling so not sure what else there might be).

            Personally I'm not concerned about the changes to sideloading since it's a one time mild inconvenience. So I struggle to understand how going to iOS in protest (which doesn't allow persistent sideloading at all without workarounds) makes any sense whatsoever.

            Google's original plan would have been really bad, but the new approach is a complete non-issue for me.

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