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OpenAI GPT–6 Astra breaks Enigma message that has resisted solution since 2005

738 points · 448 comments · sohkamyung

  1. tantalor · · focus · HN ↗
    Neat, but "did it entirely on its own" is incongruous with "developing the necessary Python and C++ software for an Enigma simulator".

    I'd start by asking how much of that generated software is novel, or easily found on the web? Then, how much of the breaking process was offloaded to that software? If Astra is just handing off tasks to another computer, then I'm not sure how much credit it deserves. Finally, it looks like Astra provided some useful insights which narrowed down the search. Were these insights cribbed from elsewhere?

    1. voiper1 · · focus · HN ↗
      It's a given now that LLMs are leveraging code to do things.

      "On it's own" generally means "not steered" or otherwise given professional guidance or input.

      I would say "developed the necessary software for a simulator" to be even more impressive - "here solve this problem" and "OK, but first I have to built the entire lab!"

      1. snthpy · · focus · HN ↗
        Indeed. It didn't write it's own TCP implementation either. Nor operating system, nor compiler, nor build its own wafer etcher...

        My comment probably sounds facetious but I'm actually intrigued by why we seem to view using the level immediately underneath as cheating whereas the levels below that are taken for granted?

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