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OpenAI GPT–6 Astra breaks Enigma message that has resisted solution since 2005

738 points · 448 comments · sohkamyung

  1. johndhi · · focus · HN ↗
    I'd be curious to see whether these models can create new forms of unbreakable encryption themselves!
    1. LPisGood · · focus · HN ↗
      Private key cryptography is essentially unbroken by these models.
      1. dgellow · · focus · HN ↗
        But they said new forms, I think that implied not the ones humans already discovered/designed
        1. LPisGood · · focus · HN ↗
          I see what you’re saying. It is generally harder to build a crypto system than to break one so I would find it hard to see potential from the design end before progress on the attack end.
          1. ijustlovemath · · focus · HN ↗
            Building a crypto system has so many footguns, I'd be amazed if it could build one that stands up to attack
            1. dgellow · · focus · HN ↗
              I think it’s all about the harness. If someone can find a way to create an iterative loop, with a good validator, I wouldn’t be too surprised if an LLM can end up with a solution. So far that’s how pretty much all problems have been solved by LLMs. That’s a very big if though!
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