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OpenAI GPT–6 Astra breaks Enigma message that has resisted solution since 2005

738 points · 448 comments · sohkamyung

  1. johndhi · · focus · HN ↗
    I'd be curious to see whether these models can create new forms of unbreakable encryption themselves!
    1. LPisGood · · focus · HN ↗
      Private key cryptography is essentially unbroken by these models.
      1. dgellow · · focus · HN ↗
        But they said new forms, I think that implied not the ones humans already discovered/designed
        1. LPisGood · · focus · HN ↗
          I see what you’re saying. It is generally harder to build a crypto system than to break one so I would find it hard to see potential from the design end before progress on the attack end.
          1. darkwater · · focus · HN ↗
            Isn't the other way round? It does not mean that breaking one is easy, but it does mean that writing one that's unbreakable it's very, very, very difficult.
            1. LPisGood · · focus · HN ↗
              Yes it is; that’s what I was thinking when I started to comment but somehow I ended up reversing course. Comment is appropriately edited now.
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