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OpenAI GPT–6 Astra breaks Enigma message that has resisted solution since 2005

738 points · 448 comments · sohkamyung

  1. ck2 · · focus · HN ↗
    I would like to see an "AI" trained only up to knowledge through 1903

    Then see if it can come up with E=mc^2

    1. ekjhgkejhgk · · focus · HN ↗
      Phew, never have I seen in my life the goalposts move so fast.

      It seems like even yesterday that the threshold for impressing someone is that the machine would have to be good at pretending to be a person. Now the threshold is that they have to be able to invent special relativity.

      1. ck2 · · focus · HN ↗
        the idea is that it's math, so in theory it could be figured out by machine process

        but was there enough knowledge by 1903 to truly figure that out?

        or was it a leap in conscious realization that a machine could not emulate (yet)

        (pretending to be a person is harder than math imho, much harder)

      2. bamboozled · · focus · HN ↗
        So glad someone finally made "the goalpost comment", I was worried for a second that I wouldn't get to see it.
      3. zahlman · · focus · HN ↗
        Maybe we could try not assuming that people have the worst intentions in mind when they post here?
        1. anthonyrstevens · · focus · HN ↗
          I wish I could, but there are so many people posting on here who explicitly signal their bad intentions that it's hard to maintain high-minded charity.
          1. zahlman · · focus · HN ↗
            I agree there are a lot of people who do that on HN.

            But <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=49801324">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=49801324 is obviously not one of them. There is a very natural and obvious interpretation of the post that has nothing to do with the motivations it&#x27;s accused of having, and the only thing that results in seeing those motivations is prejudice. It&#x27;s a single-sentence, top-level comment, written by someone who has been here since 2010 and isn&#x27;t infamous enough for me to recognize the username.

      4. madaxe_again · · focus · HN ↗
        And they’re not allowed to use Lorenz, Riemann, Grossman, Mach, or any other prior art. Only then is it real.
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