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OpenAI GPT–6 Astra breaks Enigma message that has resisted solution since 2005

738 points · 448 comments · sohkamyung

  1. aogaili · · focus · HN ↗
    If the problem was solved by anyone before or if a similar problem has been solved, then LLMs seem to be able to solve them which is an astonishing piece of technology.

    I'm personally not sure if it can come with original thinking and techniques to solve completely novel problems. For that, some imagination and thinking outside the box are required, and I doubt the current architecture can do any of this.

    1. mitthrowaway2 · · focus · HN ↗
      What's an example of a completely novel problem?
      1. skeptic_ai · · focus · HN ↗
        Anything that an ai can do is not novel /s
        1. pixl97 · · focus · HN ↗
          You jest, but this is the content of a considerable number of serious posts here on HN.
        2. john_strinlai · · focus · HN ↗
          this appears to be where the goalposts are being moved to, indeed.
          1. aogaili · · focus · HN ↗
            just because humans couldn't solve does not mean the necessary technique were not already discovered...we have agents that don't get tired and has access to all humanity knowledge, the building blocks could be there already..

            this is not moving the goalposts, this is try to understand what this tech truly able and not able to do.

        3. aogaili · · focus · HN ↗
          Actually I think this is true, remove the s.

          Reminds of what Einstein said, imagination is more important than knowledge..might be his deepest insight ever.

          1. adsmit14 · · focus · HN ↗
            He needed his friend and math genius, Marcel Grossman, to turn his imagination into a workable theory. AI may be our own personal Marcel Grossman at this point.
            1. aogaili · · focus · HN ↗
              Good analogy, yeah make sense.
          2. aogaili · · focus · HN ↗
            Here is his quote:

            "Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination encircles the world,” means that facts alone only describe what currently exists, while imagination allows us to discover what is yet unproven or unbuilt"

            This probably sums up the current AI limitation nicely.

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