There's a continuum between "vibe coded by someone with no technical knowledge or inclination" and "hand written domain driven design development". You can absolutely use coding agents AND have maintainable code. But yes, the coding agents will not magically make everything maintainable if you don't tell them to.
"Code maintainability and good architecture don’t have good measurements that we can apply"
Who has no wisdom? There are dozens of ways to measure code maintainability. Cyclomatic complexity is just one.
Nothing stops you from wiring up something like SonarQube metrics to your agentic coding workflow.
> There's a continuum between "vibe coded by someone with no technical knowledge or inclination" and "hand written domain driven design development". You can absolutely use coding agents AND have maintainable code. But yes, the coding agents will not magically make everything maintainable if you don't tell them to.
Yes. But I think the idea is without "hand written domain driven design development" the result trends to "vibe coded by someone with no technical knowledge or inclination," as developers de-skill.
- lot of (most?) people can do basic multiplication (I’m too lazy to fetch any stats but I hope you’ll have some observations in your bubble dear reader)
- some people actually compete in mental calculations <a href="https://worldmentalcalculation.com/mental-calculations-world-championship/" rel="nofollow">https://worldmentalcalculation.com/mental-calculations-world...
Same will be with software devs, enthusiasts will continue to exist.
Our class sizes at the university that I teach at have plummeted with the crash. What I'm hoping is that this means I'm just going to be teaching people who are actually interested in producing quality code.
davedx · · focus · HN ↗
"Code maintainability and good architecture don’t have good measurements that we can apply"
Who has no wisdom? There are dozens of ways to measure code maintainability. Cyclomatic complexity is just one.
Nothing stops you from wiring up something like SonarQube metrics to your agentic coding workflow.
palmotea · · focus · HN ↗
Yes. But I think the idea is without "hand written domain driven design development" the result trends to "vibe coded by someone with no technical knowledge or inclination," as developers de-skill.
falserum · · focus · HN ↗
Somewhat relevant parallel..
Calculators exist, but not all is lost:
- lot of (most?) people can do basic multiplication (I’m too lazy to fetch any stats but I hope you’ll have some observations in your bubble dear reader)
- some people actually compete in mental calculations <a href="https://worldmentalcalculation.com/mental-calculations-world-championship/" rel="nofollow">https://worldmentalcalculation.com/mental-calculations-world...
Same will be with software devs, enthusiasts will continue to exist.
beej71 · · focus · HN ↗