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1. throwaw12 · 1790077711 · focus · HN ↗

   I like JetBrains as a company, their pricing for individuals made a lot of sense, you buy the license and you can keep using perpetual license for that version, if you want to buy newer version, you pay slightly less than year before.

   I want them to succeed, but can't see how they can win in this agentic world, where people are barely opening their IDEs, and living in agents terminal whole day and from time to time opening a PR to get a review

   1. ffsm8 · 1790086373 · focus · HN ↗

      We just haven't had the IDE moment for agentic development yet.

      I suspect we won't for several years yet - and it's likely going to be way more integrated/specialized for specific technology than our previous ides were.

      But you're unlikely to go back once you've the full stack integrated with full observability, release pipeline, system integration tests etc pp

      Still, it needs way more integration to work well and not be DOA, hence this is still far out I think.

      1. pauleveritt · 1790087990 · focus · HN ↗

         JetBrainer here. Kind of my thoughts as well. When you think about the main problem -- human-in-the-loop -- the deterministic side has a lot to offer. But not always at the point of cursor-on-a-character.
      2. alfg · 1790422468 · focus · HN ↗

         I think this is it. It's hard to tell what the future of IDE development (if any) looks like at the pace AI is going. So everyone is building agentic workflows for a fast moving target. What will happen when the code generated is already 99.9% trustworthy and doesn't need the human-based tooling of an IDE anymore? It feels like we're almost there.

         I do think JetBrains has an advantage here with their background and reputation. I'm constantly reshaping my tools literally every month, so hopefully they build some type of staple development IDE to fit these type of workflows. I don't know what that is yet.

         AIR looks interesting, but I can't say this is the "AI IDE moment" yet.

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