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1. throwaw12 · 1790077711 · focus · HN ↗

   I like JetBrains as a company, their pricing for individuals made a lot of sense, you buy the license and you can keep using perpetual license for that version, if you want to buy newer version, you pay slightly less than year before.

   I want them to succeed, but can't see how they can win in this agentic world, where people are barely opening their IDEs, and living in agents terminal whole day and from time to time opening a PR to get a review

   1. brentroose · 1790081912 · focus · HN ↗

      I'm biased (I'm a dev advocate at JetBrains), but I also still actively write code and use PhpStorm almost daily.

      Yes, we're writing less code, but the job of "a programmer" has always been about so much more than _writing_ code. It's about code reviews, QA, debugging, discovery, and maintenance; much more than the "writing" part. Anyone with production code will agree, I think: the writing part is the easy part. That's where I still very much prefer a proper IDE over a text editor or terminal. I want easy code navigation, I want proper static analysis without relying or waiting on third party tools, I want a visual overview of changes that happened. I want to stay in charge of whatever is writing my code. On top of that, I want my agents to have access to the tools that have made me the most productive developer for years.

      Curious about your thoughts?

      1. throwaw12 · 1790083006 · focus · HN ↗

         > much more than _writing_ code. It's about code reviews, QA, debugging, discovery, and maintenance;

         Of course, but agents are also opening up new possibilities to do these jobs.

         For example, you can do quick first code review with agent, or you can ask agent to add couple of print statements and debug the code until it figures out the issue, also for discovery, you can do discovery with agents and generate nice output with the details you want (although not accurate sometimes)

         As a JetBrains user myself, whose organization cancelled the IntelliJ license recently, I can attest things I am doing inside IntelliJ is getting less and less. I am primarily using IntelliJ for code navigation at the moment, which is still the best one

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