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1. throwaw12 · 1790077711 · focus · HN ↗

   I like JetBrains as a company, their pricing for individuals made a lot of sense, you buy the license and you can keep using perpetual license for that version, if you want to buy newer version, you pay slightly less than year before.

   I want them to succeed, but can't see how they can win in this agentic world, where people are barely opening their IDEs, and living in agents terminal whole day and from time to time opening a PR to get a review

   1. sunaurus · 1790079574 · focus · HN ↗

      I'm realizing I am a minority, but my IDE is becoming MORE valuable to me, not less, with LLMs.

      The volume of code is only increasing. Problems that used to be solved with a few lines (or even removing lines) are now solved with changes across 10 different files.

      My IDE is invaluable for me when trying to navigate this stuff. I am completely convinced that people reviewing LLM code only via PR diffs are consistently missing massive systemic issues. You *need* to review changes in context of the surrounding code.

      And doing this without an IDE is just making your life harder for no reason.

      1. pauleveritt · 1790082358 · focus · HN ↗

         JetBrainer here. I can attest that you are a primary target for Air for IDEs.

         We have put a lot of thought into how we can add value for the workflow you just described. Here's the way I think about it: FSD for a car. Can you imagine trying to sell a car without a steering wheel? I still want to code, I still want the deterministic side, even in cases where I'm letting the machine do the work.

         1. surgical_fire · 1790086960 · focus · HN ↗

            I wanted to try Air, as it seems to have interesting ideas for working collaboratively with LLMs.

            But the choice of AI providers was very limited, and I found no ways to add the ones I use (the only options for providers were Anthropic, OpenAI and Google).

            Any plans of opening up for more providers?

            1. fundamental17 · 1790088669 · focus · HN ↗

               With ACP, it allows for any provider you choose.

               1. surgical_fire · 1790088799 · focus · HN ↗

                  Cool, I'll try this today.
         2. kelsolaar · 1790191821 · focus · HN ↗

            I would really like Air to be closer to an agent / terminal multiplexer like CMUX / WMUX: I would for example like to be able to basically type "claude" or "codex" to launch my harness with the CLI args I need. The fact this requires dedicated API keys from the LLM providers makes it a no go at both home and work.

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