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JetBrains Air: A System of Products for Agentic Software Development

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  1. giancarlostoro · · focus · HN ↗
    Is anyone using any of JetBrains AI offerings? I feel like they are burning piles of money on areas I never hear anyone talking about using. The only thing I ever used was their AI plugin, tried Junie once, but the rest just seems like noise I dont care about.
    1. GordonS · · focus · HN ↗
      I use Rider and DataGrip regularly. I also use WriterCide,

      DataGrip is seriously under-rated, IMO.

      1. foepys · · focus · HN ↗
        As far as I know, you don't need DataGrip if you already have Rider. The same functionality is already inside Rider.
        1. GordonS · · focus · HN ↗
          I like a completely separate tool for managing databases.
      2. giancarlostoro · · focus · HN ↗
        I mean, I use DataGrip, but their AI specific tools is what I'm wondering about.
        1. GordonS · · focus · HN ↗
          Ah. I don't rate how JetBrains have gone about it. It feels like things have moved around a lot, and it seems too complicated, with too many AI "thingies" sprinkled around without much explanation. And the inline, auto-suggested change can vary from "useful, please do that", to "will you stop flashing up all this shit everywhere I look!".

          For a while I used Junie for small refactorings, and it generally does a good job, quite quickly. A couple of times I tried asking it for more complex things, and it didn't do well. I do find the UI to be a bit tricky, so it's quite possible I did something wrong or didn't add something to the context I was supposed to. Hopefully they sort out the "AI Chat" panel soon.

          But now I use Codex/ChatGPT... and what it can do is frankly incredible. And it might just be me, but I do like having my AI chat UI completely separate from my IDE.

      3. variodot · · focus · HN ↗
        I agree on DataGrip and use its MCP weekly.
      4. keithnz · · focus · HN ↗
        I used to use datagrip, but one of my first &quot;vibe code&quot; experiments was to create a datagrip replacement for myself ( <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;keithn&#x2F;sql" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;keithn&#x2F;sql ) that worked better for the kinds of things I did, a lightning fast tui, but then I stopped using that and now just use claude mostly.
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