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1. throwaw12 · 1790077711 · focus · HN ↗

   I like JetBrains as a company, their pricing for individuals made a lot of sense, you buy the license and you can keep using perpetual license for that version, if you want to buy newer version, you pay slightly less than year before.

   I want them to succeed, but can't see how they can win in this agentic world, where people are barely opening their IDEs, and living in agents terminal whole day and from time to time opening a PR to get a review

   1. voidfunc · 1790078102 · focus · HN ↗

      Agree, and I have been an Ultimate Edition license holder since like 2013.

      I have opened an IDE for very very few things in the last 9 months or so. Im still renewing a license at this point mostly because I like JetBrains the company and it's not a financial burden but they are in a bad place.

      1. chem83 · 1790078656 · focus · HN ↗

         If their revenue-generating products are not doing so hot, I wonder what that means to projects such as Kotlin and Compose Multiplatform. Will they keep the lights on?

         1. fidotron · 1790078913 · focus · HN ↗

            The whole "multiplatform" portability business has been one of the most conspicuous victims of the agent wave. Porting is now primarily a QA exercise, not a development one. (Development too, generally, is heading that way).
      2. reeredfdfdf · 1790079733 · focus · HN ↗

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      3. pauleveritt · 1790082510 · focus · HN ↗

         JetBrainer here. Thanks for the loyalty, and I do think as one of the last independents, we are worth cheering for. But it's up to us to earn double-clicking on the IDE icon.

         After using Air in PyCharm, it's some good stuff. It's re-imagined for this hybrid world. But my question for you, honest question: do you think you still want to look at code? How about write code? If so, what are some things you'd do, if you were in charge of our IDEs?

      4. tetraodonpuffer · 1790085667 · focus · HN ↗

         same here, but this will probably be my last year, their AI strategy where it seems impossible to use it with local models without it "calling home" really soured things for me, if I wanted an always connected spying on me IDE I would use vs.code, I paid for jetbrains because I wanted to use all functionality (including AI, pointed to my llama.cpp) with networking blocked in little snitch save quick unblocks for the occasional license check if needed.

         1. pauleveritt · 1790088062 · focus · HN ↗

            JetBrainer here. I use OpenCode and Pi connected to local models and to stuff like hosted DeepSeek all the time. Once you have your model config set up in the agent, it works as expected.

            1. tetraodonpuffer · 1790088163 · focus · HN ↗

               thanks for the reply, last time I tried this in goland if you blocked the IDE from networking via little snitch/opensnitch, it did not seem to work or keep working, there seemed to be some sort of call home to enable the AI plugin / keep AI working. If this has changed I will retry and see.

               Note <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtrack.jetbrains.com&#x2F;projects&#x2F;LLM&#x2F;issues&#x2F;LLM-17450&#x2F;Provide-an-option-for-fully-offline-mode-when-working-with-local-LLMs" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtrack.jetbrains.com&#x2F;projects&#x2F;LLM&#x2F;issues&#x2F;LLM-17450... is still open although <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtrack.jetbrains.com&#x2F;issue&#x2F;LLM-16479&#x2F;Be-able-to-activate-AI-Assistant-in-offline-mode-without-Internet-connection" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtrack.jetbrains.com&#x2F;issue&#x2F;LLM-16479&#x2F;Be-able-to-ac... appears to be closed as completed now

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