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1. diego_moita · 1790077525 · focus · HN ↗

   So what? Did anyone expect it to be different?

   There is no "beautiful game". This show is only about manipulating people by exploiting their most basic and stupid instincts: aggression, tribalism, etc.

   Sports entertainment has always been like that since the Coliseum and Circus Maximus were the main attractions in town.

   The very expression "beautiful game" was born out of it. From the late 60s to the 70s, Brazil was one of the strongest contenders in the World Cup. They achieved that because they were able to select a roster of very skilled athletes among an huge national league. Because the country was ruled by an extremely nationalist military dictatorship, the government fully supported and promoted wrapping the country around the national team. Then the subservient sports press invented the name "jogo bonito" (beautiful game) to typify this game based on individual skills. From there, the propaganda term caught on. A similar thing happened in other countries ruled by dictatorships by then: Argentina, Chile, Portugal, Greece, Turkey,...

   My point is that football's tribalism (like the Roman circus) was always at the service of some power. Before, it was autocratic nationalism in dictatorships. Now, it is just bets, alcohol and junk food.

   1. expedition32 · 1790078448 · focus · HN ↗

      The 1978 world cup finale in Argentina was held right next to the torture center.

      To put things into perspective when people whine about the American held world cup: nobody was thrown out of an airplane.

   2. order-matters · 1790089701 · focus · HN ↗

      this doesnt give the audience enough credit.

      Sports are an organized place we have developed as an environment for us to express our most basic and stupid instincts rather than repress them.

      As with many environments, opportunists try to find ways to exploit it for self serving interests. People enjoy gambling, for example, and that leads to exploiters trying to rig the odds.

      Since there is a lot of money involved, it is unsurprising that the control and organization of sports would be sought after by powers but ultimately the audience puts much more faith in the players to have an honest desire to compete than they do the establishments organizing the games to be well intentioned. And gambling is the release valve, where if you believe it to be rigged a certain way then you can bet on it so it can never be too obvious if it's happening

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