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1. jfewhfuehg · 1790070752 · focus · HN ↗

   Most teachers now use AI for lesson planning (talk to any teacher). Some even for marking when they can.

   Children probably use more critical thinking in the playground and interacting with other children than in class, because classwork is mostly slop anyway.

   LLMs are not going to one shot answers in Minecraft through the chat UI. Possibly a more effective resource than checkbox activities at teaching "critical thinking" (abused term in education).

   1. codingdave · 1790071538 · focus · HN ↗

      I have talked to teachers recently about their options when choosing classroom curriculum and tools. None of them have said a word about AI. Most of them have complained of lack of autonomy because the tools and curriculum are decided at the district level, and the teachers have to use whatever the district sets up.

      The reason I started those conversations was specifically around when children are learning critical thinking skills. When we broke down exactly what types of exercises teach those skills, it surprised me to find that it starts way earlier than it used to. It is now a late elementary school topic, when it used to be high school.

      That doesn't mean that slop isn't creeping into the classroom - it is. But what to do about it is a completely different conversation when it is pushed down from on top vs. assuming teachers are choosing it.

      1. jfewhfuehg · 1790072919 · focus · HN ↗

         Depends on what we mean by critical thinking, as I said it is an abused term. Some just use it as a substitute to mean "thinking for yourself" when that is not something taught in a lesson but either becomes a habit or doesn't. But even then we all use arguments from authority and present it as our own because you are not realistically going to think about everything from first principles all the time.

         I agree that districts do have a lot of pressure on teachers to keep pushing up test scores which leads them to being gamed either by teachers or children no matter the tools available: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Goodhart%27s_law" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Goodhart%27s_law

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