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AMD's random number generator can't generate a 0?

288 points · 220 comments · BruceEel

  1. jstanley · · focus · HN ↗
    This is not the first RNG bug on Zen 2, I recall after I first got mine that some application or other would quit immediately at startup because rdrand always returned -1, i.e. all 1s. It was fixed with a microcode update.

    Do we now learn that they fixed "always generate all 1s" with "never generate all 0s"??

    EDIT: I've been unable to reproduce the problem on my CPU, FWIW. It's a Ryzen 5 3600.

    EDIT2: OK, update, I can reproduce it with rdrand16, rdrand32 is fine but rdrand16 can never generate all 0s. So my CPU does have this problem!

    1. rbanffy · · focus · HN ↗
      Even if you reproduce the issue, it is not a proof it can't generate a zero - just that it's very unlikely.

      To prove it, we'd need to examine the chip and its microcode.

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