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I said no and Apple said yes

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  1. vitro · · focus · HN ↗
    Not trying to start flamewars, but more and more I wonder how much are people willing to put up with such practices. On linux for 15+ years and everytime I try to use mac or win, it is an ordeal. And ads. F*cking ads in a system someone has purchased. And spying. Really user hostile environment. No, thank you.
    1. tomp · · focus · HN ↗
      Because Mac laptops are lightyears ahead of any other hardware.

      Build quality (aluminum), charging (magsafe), screen resolution, battery life, noise (or lack thereof), trackpad…

      It’s like other vendors aren’t even trying.

      Also the OS mostly “just works”, just last week my Linux laptop disabled NVIDIA GPU (and almost bricked itself?? Not sure, had to fix apt) during automated updates

      1. ffsm8 · · focus · HN ↗
        You have an interesting definition of "bricked"

        That's defined as "the device has become a brick, cannot be recovered". It was mostly popularized by broken firmware updates which effectively destroyed the device, as it could no longer be salvaged.

        You calling a borked package install in userspace almost bricked is telling about your technical capability.

        And I agree that people that are basically technologically illiterate should not use Linux.

        They could if someone administers it for them, but if nobody can help them - it's just not the right choice.

        1. prmoustache · · focus · HN ↗
          > They could if someone administers it for them, but if nobody can help them - it's just not the right choice.

          I wonder why? If nobody can help them, they are fucked on any OS.

          1. ffsm8 · · focus · HN ↗
            Yeah, but with Apple they can get help from the genius desk at the Apple store.

            For both windows and Linux you'll have to find someone thats willing to help you, essentially. Usually a lot harder for those people. Especially with Linux ime, as even fewer places know enough to help you, even if they may be able to handle windows

            1. prmoustache · · focus · HN ↗
              I believe there is a whole market dedicated to give assistance to windows.

              To use Linux on the desktop you first have to know about it for a start, so you are unlikely to end up with a linux OS without knowing anyone using it or an association/usergroup promoting it.

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