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I said no and Apple said yes

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  1. vitro · · focus · HN ↗
    Not trying to start flamewars, but more and more I wonder how much are people willing to put up with such practices. On linux for 15+ years and everytime I try to use mac or win, it is an ordeal. And ads. F*cking ads in a system someone has purchased. And spying. Really user hostile environment. No, thank you.
    1. tomp · · focus · HN ↗
      Because Mac laptops are lightyears ahead of any other hardware.

      Build quality (aluminum), charging (magsafe), screen resolution, battery life, noise (or lack thereof), trackpad…

      It’s like other vendors aren’t even trying.

      Also the OS mostly “just works”, just last week my Linux laptop disabled NVIDIA GPU (and almost bricked itself?? Not sure, had to fix apt) during automated updates

      1. QuiEgo · · focus · HN ↗
        Every time one of these threads comes up, the replies have the form “you’re not doing x right, or Linux would be fine.”

        X is usually “pick hardware with good support in ToT kernel” or “use distribution Y” (where Y is somehow different in every post) or “do you really need feature Z that’s better on Mac? You’re making the wrong trade.”

        To each their own but I’d rather not deal with XYZ and just get the thing that works.

        p.s. I do hope they put a toggle back for Siri and their on device AI stuff

        1. ajross · · focus · HN ↗
          > To each their own but I’d rather not deal with XYZ and just get the thing that works.

          Yes, but the point of the linked article is that this preference inevitably results in your device spying on you. To each their own indeed.

          Edit: and of course I see your P.S. note. But that isn't really responsive. Most Linux users would point out (P.S.) that they'd like their hardware to be faster and lower power or their OS to be a little cleaner. But alas, you can't have everything.

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