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I said no and Apple said yes

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  1. vitro · · focus · HN ↗
    Not trying to start flamewars, but more and more I wonder how much are people willing to put up with such practices. On linux for 15+ years and everytime I try to use mac or win, it is an ordeal. And ads. F*cking ads in a system someone has purchased. And spying. Really user hostile environment. No, thank you.
    1. silverbluep · · focus · HN ↗
      I'm in the same boat; been using linux for the last 15 years. Had to get a mac for work this year due to their logging software not being available on linux.

      The laptop quality is great; great sound, battery lasts forever compared to mine (framework). Userspace tools and UI is terrible and have no control over but the hardware and the software integration is top notch. (I live in the terminal, and have nix-darwin to bring my existing setup to mac so it's not jarring most of the time)

      Won't look back when I can transition back to linux full time; I'll be so happy. But I can see why people go with apple products. I really hope that ARM laptops become a regular thing.

      1. e12e · · focus · HN ↗
        I really hope arm laptops get full linux support as promised - but never delivered:

        <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;arstechnica.com&#x2F;civis&#x2F;threads&#x2F;jan-2025-state-of-linux-on-snapdragon-x-elite-systems.1505095&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;arstechnica.com&#x2F;civis&#x2F;threads&#x2F;jan-2025-state-of-linu...

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