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I said no and Apple said yes

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  1. vitro · · focus · HN ↗
    Not trying to start flamewars, but more and more I wonder how much are people willing to put up with such practices. On linux for 15+ years and everytime I try to use mac or win, it is an ordeal. And ads. F*cking ads in a system someone has purchased. And spying. Really user hostile environment. No, thank you.
    1. tomp · · focus · HN ↗
      Because Mac laptops are lightyears ahead of any other hardware.

      Build quality (aluminum), charging (magsafe), screen resolution, battery life, noise (or lack thereof), trackpad…

      It’s like other vendors aren’t even trying.

      Also the OS mostly “just works”, just last week my Linux laptop disabled NVIDIA GPU (and almost bricked itself?? Not sure, had to fix apt) during automated updates

      1. ffsm8 · · focus · HN ↗
        You have an interesting definition of "bricked"

        That's defined as "the device has become a brick, cannot be recovered". It was mostly popularized by broken firmware updates which effectively destroyed the device, as it could no longer be salvaged.

        You calling a borked package install in userspace almost bricked is telling about your technical capability.

        And I agree that people that are basically technologically illiterate should not use Linux.

        They could if someone administers it for them, but if nobody can help them - it's just not the right choice.

        1. dingdongditchme · · focus · HN ↗
          these days to me a device is bricked if I need to spend +1h recovering it. Happy linux user though through and through.
          1. hiccuphippo · · focus · HN ↗
            Maybe we should come up with a new definition for that because bricked definitely means unrecoverable.
            1. mingus88 · · focus · HN ↗
              Why? That term will also change due to common usage over time

              We lost the battle over “literally “ a decade ago and I’m not going to spend my time fighting a bunch of people who would rather scroll through 5 second videos all day than pick up a book.

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