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I said no and Apple said yes

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  1. rozenmd · · focus · HN ↗
    You ever notice how Apple never really lets the user say "no" to their nudges?

    It's always "maybe later" and never "no seriously, I don't want this, go away"

    1. aranelsurion · · focus · HN ↗
      I have this one notification asking me if I want to enable the Personal focus when I’m at home. I don’t want my iPhone to care if I’m at home or not, so the past two years whenever it pops up I click Later.

      It will probably never stop asking.

      1. jacquesm · · focus · HN ↗
        It will. Once you accidentally mis-click once and then suddeny there is no way to back out of it.
        1. frereubu · · focus · HN ↗
          I think this should be called the ratchet theory of consent because it only tightens.
          1. jacquesm · · focus · HN ↗
            I beat you to it by a couple of years :)

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            1. frereubu · · focus · HN ↗
              Haha! Great minds think alike. (Although they do also say that fools seldom differ...)
              1. jacquesm · · focus · HN ↗
                I&#x27;ve got bad news for you then :)
      2. dizhn · · focus · HN ↗
        Google Play Store has a notification to enable notifications. You didn&#x27;t read that wrong. It shows a badge and everything. I said no for years except that last time. Now I can&#x27;t find how to turn it off again.
        1. microtonal · · focus · HN ↗
          Can’t you just disable notifications for the Google Play Store app? Maybe it’s because I’m on GrapheneOS, but I can just enable&#x2F;disable notifications like any other app.
          1. dizhn · · focus · HN ↗
            This is like an in app Envelope icon thing.
      3. thrw87473939387 · · focus · HN ↗
        Not sure about the focus pop up but most&#x2F;all of Apple’s other nags (like set up Siri, try Apple Music and the like) go away permanently if you go to the settings app and click “later” from there (as opposed to the button in the pop up which has the exact same label).
      4. nozzlegear · · focus · HN ↗
        You can delete the Personal focus.
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