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1. moomoo11 · 1790044205 · focus · HN ↗

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   1. popalchemist · 1790044670 · focus · HN ↗

      yes, AND, if your father was dead and people were desecrating him daily, would this "logic" of yours stop you from feeling that saying something is appropriate?

      (No. Come on.)

      1. moomoo11 · 1790045662 · focus · HN ↗

         i see AI edits of living people like sama or dario every day, various politicians, actors from various movies, etc.

         i see AI edits of people who aren't here anymore like that guy charlie kirk or george floyd (to pick examples from "both" sides), i saw ai edits of alan rickman (guy who played Snape in happy Potter), and there are edits of napoleon or others.

         if my dad was a famous actor known by literally 100s of millions of people, that was my dad's choice to bring that on himself. just being real.

         people trying to compel other people is just an L take

         1. clipsy · 1790045713 · focus · HN ↗

            So your worldview boils down to: if something happens a lot, it can't be bad?
         2. Barbing · 1790045841 · focus · HN ↗

            Where are you seeing AI edits?
         3. popalchemist · 1790046965 · focus · HN ↗

            The difference here is he committed suicide, so it is obviously extremely triggering for his daughter to see him saying random (often racist or otherwise created for shock value) trash content as if he's still alive.

            You have low empathy, in case you didn't know.

            1. zulux · 1790047396 · focus · HN ↗

               I'm Lutheran, and we take a very dim view of suicide.

               However, RW was going through hell on earth with his diagnoses and the progression of this disease. Many of us don't view what he did as a willful destruction of the life that God gave him.

               1. popalchemist · 1790144434 · focus · HN ↗

                  There's a lot I could say about it, but, again I just want to reframe this as about being respectful to the family who deserve to not have their traumas reopened daily by juvenile desecrations of his image, moreso than about the rightness or meaning of Robin Williams' actions. Basic human decency.
         4. ElProlactin · 1790048859 · focus · HN ↗

            > i see AI edits of living people like sama or dario every day, various politicians, actors from various movies, etc.

            If you're consuming "AI edits" of Sam and Dario "every day", that explains a lot about your comments here.

   2. hn_throwaway_99 · 1790044922 · focus · HN ↗

      > you're free to downvote me if you disagree, because either way, in this case both up and down votes prove me right.

      incants magical spell so that I'm always right!

      Checkmate atheists, or something.

   3. clipsy · 1790045194 · focus · HN ↗

      > both up and down votes prove me right.

      No, they really don't.

      1. moomoo11 · 1790045389 · focus · HN ↗

         it means both are correct stances to have, sorry it doesn't make sense to you

         1. clipsy · 1790045546 · focus · HN ↗

            Feel free to ELI5, I'll be waiting with bated breath.

            1. moomoo11 · 1790045734 · focus · HN ↗

               in my post i said:

               i mean.. i get it. (point 1) i'd never do it. (point 2)

               i also said, it is the internet and people will do that because famous people are... famous... and if there's an AI video of a famous person that I do like, i will give it a like.

               if Robin Williams was some guy who worked as a cashier at Trader Joe's his whole life nobody would care

               maybe Robin Williams should have never been an actor then he'd be unknown to the masses, like 99% of us on HN

               1. clipsy · 1790046195 · focus · HN ↗

                  > i mean.. i get it. (point 1) i'd never do it. (point 2)

                  And?

                  > i also said, it is the internet and people will do that because famous people are... famous... and if there's an AI video of a famous person that I do like, i will give it a like.

                  Essentially: it happens a lot so it must be OK. Lovely morals.

                  > if Robin Williams was some guy who worked as a cashier at Trader Joe's his whole life nobody would care

                  People don't care about a random murder victim as much as they care about Rob Reiner; murder is still wrong and deplorable.

                  > maybe Robin Williams should have never been an actor then he'd be unknown to the masses, like 99% of us on HN

                  Whiny bullshit.

         2. dghlsakjg · 1790045947 · focus · HN ↗

            Upvotes and downvotes do not give any validity to an argument.

            Sorry it doesn’t make sense to you.

   4. bredren · 1790045746 · focus · HN ↗

      Bob Barker and Wilford Brimley both took it pretty hard on Sora.

      I don't remember seeing any RW content, but there was some John Lennon stuff. He was mostly in good taste, but I remember seeing something and being, uncomfortable with it.

      I don't really see why Bob Barker should be any less protected, then John Lennon or Robin Williams. None of these people were saints.

      But there is or at least used to be deference provided to certain people or establishments.

      I haven't seen this video that was so upsetting, but perhaps it's not the reanimation so much as the content. Some of it is so obviously satire it's not to be taken seriously.

      But, I remember somebody used Bruce Lee as a vessel to spread the gospel on Sora. I had to frown at that, as it was not how he would have behaved.

   5. tene80i · 1790047989 · focus · HN ↗

      You seem to be trying to argue “this is actually fine” but what you’re actually saying is “I do not care what the family want, I will continue to enjoy the thing they hate”.

      So… ok? You can go and knock over headstones in graveyards too. So what? It doesn’t prove anything except you’re a jackass.

      If what you mean is “She is wrong to ask for this, our entertainment is more important than her grief”, then, well, I guess that’s an argument you can make, but you haven’t actually made the argument.

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