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People hooked on vapes try a new way to quit: cigarettes

248 points · 335 comments · alephnerd

  1. giancarlostoro · · focus · HN ↗
    I am more of a cigar smoker, I used to smoke a cigar every month, every other month and sometimes all month long for several months, but I was never addicted, I have gone a year or two without cigars, currently I have not had one in about five years now, give or take. I could have one any moment, they sit in my humidor, but I did try ecigs for a little bit. I'd love to have an alternative that doesn't compromise my health, but until then I'll keep my cigars.

    I love cigars for various reasons, but there's no true alternative that's worth while.

    1. ipsod · · focus · HN ↗
      Pipes?
      1. Ancapistani · · focus · HN ↗
        Yeah, I love my pipes.

        To be clear, it's 100%, definitely not good for you - but the level of harm doesn't seem to be even close to cigarettes or chewing tobacco.

        The amount consumed is much less, the smoke shouldn't be entering your lungs, and if there are tons of good, "all-natural" tobacco out there without all the additives put in by cigarette companies.

        1. subhro · · focus · HN ↗
          Why is it less harm compared to cigarette? I would assume the cigarette at least has a filter which makes things a little better?
          1. lanfeust6 · · focus · HN ↗
            It's just because cigars (and presumably pipes?) are puffed, not inhaled. You absorb nicotine through the mucus membrane in your mouth (not as much), and otherwise enjoy the flavor. The practice with cigarettes is to inhale into your lungs. You could technically puff a cigarette I guess.

            People make a big deal out additives and accelerants, but the carcinogens are 99% from smoke, burning plant matter. In that respect, pure tobacco isn't meaningfully safer. That said if you "puff", that's probably safer, though still risky (mouth cancer, and you're still going to inhale some amount of smoke).

            1. Ancapistani · · focus · HN ↗
              For the additives, I’m more concerned about the addiction potential than direct risks.
              1. lanfeust6 · · focus · HN ↗
                I would think nicotine does most of the heavy lifting qua addictive potential
                1. Ancapistani · · focus · HN ↗
                  That’s not my understanding, actually.
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