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1. mullingitover · 1790120167 · focus · HN ↗

   Did a cigarette write this article?

   Cigarettes are ridiculously more addictive. I know this from experience, but also from a study that found that MAOIs (in cigarettes, but not found in vapes) "dramatically increase the motivation to self-administer nicotine in rats."[1]

   I had a wickedly difficult time quitting cigarettes, many failed attempts over the course of years. Vaping made quitting tobacco comically easy, and quitting vaping was also comically easy compared to cold turkey. To quit my all-day vaping habit I just...got rid of the vapes and stopped doing it. I thought about it a few times a day for the first few days, and that was it.

   People saying to avoid vapes as a cessation tool are committing actual harm, imo. It's like the difference in difficulty between just jumping off a roof versus using a ladder to descend. Yes, ladders are risky, but not as risky as jumping off a roof.

   [1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.jneurosci.org&#x2F;content&#x2F;25&#x2F;38&#x2F;8593" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.jneurosci.org&#x2F;content&#x2F;25&#x2F;38&#x2F;8593

   1. throw310822 · 1790143405 · focus · HN ↗

      I have to confirm the article. After switching from cigarettes to vaping and vaping for several years, I decided to go back to cigarettes precisely to get rid of the monstrous vaping addiction.

      While never a heavy smoker I absolutely loved vaping: it was the first thing my hand reached for in the morning and the last it let go falling asleep. I went into panics when I couldn&#x27;t remember where I had left my vape.

      I&#x27;ve now managed to further reduce my smoking to only very few cigarettes per day. This might well still be more harmful than vaping all day long, but at least I got rid of my sixth finger (as a friend used to call it) and I can forget about smoking or vaping for many hours a day.

      1. specproc · 1790150646 · focus · HN ↗

         I lived near 20 years in a country where cigarettes are cheap and not stigmatised. Coming back home, I&#x27;ve found I&#x27;m one of the few smokers left.

         All my friends have moved to vapes, and they vape harder than I smoke, and I was on 20 a day before moving to roll ups.

         I need to quit, but don&#x27;t see vaping as viable.

         1. throw310822 · 1790159387 · focus · HN ↗

            I&#x27;m not sure the damage from vaping is even close to that of smoking, especially if you smoke a lot. Nevertheless, at some point I decided I was way too attached to it- though I only had a small vape with low nicotine and rather neutral taste as opposed to those things that produce entire cumulonimbi of cherry-flavoured vapour. At least with cigarettes I am acutely aware of the harm, constantly try to keep it in check, and to smoke I need at least to reach an open place.

            Btw, one thing that helped me a lot are nicotine patches. I&#x27;ve used them for years and helped me reduce smoking down to ~3 cigs&#x2F; day, and even stop it for some period.

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