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People hooked on vapes try a new way to quit: cigarettes

248 points · 335 comments · alephnerd

  1. theGeatZhopa · · focus · HN ↗
    Evolution:

    The next will be nicotine free tobacco. .. the leafs will be watered for a undisclosed amount of time to remove the nicotine as it's water soluble. It's like decaffeinated coffee - it's when you need this tastes but your heart can't take it anymore :)

    1. euroderf · · focus · HN ↗
      If you can also keep the usual tobacco-processing chemicals and other additives out, is the bare leaf, nicotine-free, arguably no worse than other common vices ?
      1. Ekaros · · focus · HN ↗
        Generally I would say that burning(flame/smoldering) anything is bad for you. Even simplest hydrocarbons (methane, propane, butane) with imperfect combustion have negative effects. You can make it slightly better, but smoke is most likely always carcinogenic.
        1. cwmoore · · focus · HN ↗
          Cars, trucks, powerplants, indoor air, are bad for you.
          1. piperswe · · focus · HN ↗
            Indeed they are, and you should also minimize exposure to the fumes from cars/trucks/powerplants and try to improve indoor ventilation.
          2. doubled112 · · focus · HN ↗
            I don't generally suck on the tailpipe of my car like a cigarette or vape.
            1. cwmoore · · focus · HN ↗
              I believe you, and think I know why that would be so.
          3. wiseowise · · focus · HN ↗
            What are you fucking twelve? Just put the cigarette down.
            1. cwmoore · · focus · HN ↗
              Yes, I am twelve, and so are the people that sold the cigarettes and profit from them.

              If we won’t tax the bots for UBI, at least we can still have smoker-subsidized school lunches.

    2. ksyx99 · · focus · HN ↗
      This has effectively been a product for many years, 22nd Century Group sells very low nicotine tobacco smoking cessation products.
    3. vhcr · · focus · HN ↗
      The unhealthy part of smoking is the smoke, not the nicotine.
    4. ssl-3 · · focus · HN ↗
      That has already been a thing that has existed.

      I once successfully quit smoking by buying a pack of cigarettes made with tobacco that had been cleansed of its nicotine. I bought them one evening on the way home from work.

      That first night was rough because nicotine withdraw be like that. The second day was still not great, but it was easier. By the third day, I'd had enough. On about the fourth day, I threw the rest away because they were just tiresome.

      They were lousy. They tasted terrible compared to my usual brand. And smoking them did nothing to quench my addiction-driven craving for nicotine -- the reward for my brain and my body simply wasn't being delivered.

      And it worked.

      ---

      My theory for the method of operation goes something like this:

      My brain was used to pushing the button and receiving candy, and it needed that candy (or at least it thought that it did).

      But this was disruptive of that: The button was still there and I could push it freely. But no matter how many times I pushed it, no candy was received. This went on just long enough that I no longer felt compelled to need candy (because nicotine addiction had enough time to fade out).

    5. damontal · · focus · HN ↗
      We used to smoke clove cigarettes. They would crackle with oil when you inhaled.
    6. astura · · focus · HN ↗
      Herbal cigarettes have been a thing forever. They are common on film and TV sets when actors need to smoke for a part but don't want the nicotine.
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