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Spymarks, not Watermarks

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  1. Retro_Dev · · focus · HN ↗
    Spymarks just seem like another word for <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Steganography" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Steganography. On that note, one way we can prevent it is to assert that all our content is byte-for-byte identical with the last known trusted stage of what we have produced (for example: a camera we are certain does not watermark, an image editor we are certain doesn&#x27;t watermark, an image compressor we are certain can&#x27;t watermark, etc). One vector that I am particularly concerned about is social media. Most images and videos uploaded to most social media is re-compressed by the target platform. This is a door to tracking that is far too easy for social media platforms to open. They might rationalize it (if discovered&#x2F;announced) by saying that our memes won&#x27;t be reposted, images or work stolen, etc... but honestly I&#x27;d rather my work be stolen than tracking information inserted in there. Oh, we also have stuff which is way more secure, like time-stamped cryptographic signatures.
    1. wodenokoto · · focus · HN ↗
      &gt; Spymarks just seem like another word for <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;…" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;…

      Stop using links instead of words. Your comment is literally unreadable without going on to other websites.

      1. zxexz · · focus · HN ↗
        the word is the last segment of the url. very readable
        1. faithful_droog · · focus · HN ↗
          It was cropped to just displaying as <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wi" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wi.. on my mobile screen - so not really readable here.
          1. Normal_gaussian · · focus · HN ↗
            and on desktop for me
          2. lozf · · focus · HN ↗
            Does the shorter enwp.org&#x2F;Steganography render any better? It&#x27;s quite handy for English Wikipedia links.

            (Edit: hmm, without the &quot;https:&#x2F;&#x2F;&quot; it seems to depend on the browsers ability to recognise a URL.)

            1. abustamam · · focus · HN ↗
              I think any length of link would have been fine if commenter just put

              &quot;for stenography (link)&quot;

              Or to use another HNism

              &quot;Stenography[1]&quot;

              Those interested could click it, those not could still read the comment.

        2. TeMPOraL · · focus · HN ↗
          Not on mobile it isn&#x27;t. Unless they really are saying we should stop using English Wikipedia.
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