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1. yonatan8070 · 1790020824 · focus · HN ↗

   Is this related to Asahi Linux in any way? Or is it a completely separate project for some reason?

   1. wolrah · 1790021205 · focus · HN ↗

      <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;gravitylinux.org&#x2F;about&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;gravitylinux.org&#x2F;about&#x2F;

      &gt; Gravity Linux vs Asahi Linux

      &gt; Gravity Linux and Asahi Linux are two independent projects working towards the shared goal of a strong, open OS ecosystem on Apple Silicon devices. Gravity Linux was initially forked from Asahi Linux over differences in policy, namely regarding LLM use. We have tremendous respect for the Asahi Linux project and emphasize our shared goal of running Linux on Apple Silicon.

      OP is the same poster from <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=49717638">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=49717638 who was noted as having been banned from Asahi Linux over hiding use of LLMs (doesn&#x27;t seem to be any disagreement about this) and accusations of having Apple proprietary knowledge (challenged by OP).

      1. ADevWithAnIdea · 1790022273 · focus · HN ↗

         &gt; hiding use of LLMs

         I disagree with this also, but the latter was so obviously wrong that I figured I should leave a reply. We are separate projects and what Asahi does is their business, our interactions will be in upstream projects and follow upstream guidelines.

         1. porphyra · 1790024119 · focus · HN ↗

            It&#x27;s kinda sad that this cool project is mired in controversy. On one hand it is kinda radioactive for a former Apple engineer to work on this, even if you worked on something else entirely while at Apple. On the other hand I really, really want proper Linux support with full GPU support on modern Macs and I feel like AI is an incredibly useful tool towards that effort.

            Oh well, if this doesn&#x27;t pan out, hopefully someone else will vibe code for a week and get it working in the near future.

            1. wjnc · 1790068329 · focus · HN ↗

               Let’s take the kind view? If Apple has a problem in a former engineer possibly using insider knowledge that is first and foremost a problem between Apple and said engineer. Reasonably if that first round kicks off, in the second round of problems an OSS project is possible in scope.

               The engineer and the project have discussed these risks and decided to continue in a fork from Asahi. So I would say that this is (nearly) how it is supposed to go. Asahi stays clean from contagion and Gravity Linux has taken a, hopefully well considered, risk.

               1. jamesgeck0 · 1790085115 · focus · HN ↗

                  If the Gravity Linux work is upstreamed into the kernel project, any issues with Apple sort of become everyone&#x27;s problem.

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