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Seattle Bans Rental Junk Fees

70 points · 173 comments · toomuchtodo

  1. maerF0x0 · · focus · HN ↗
    We need a national law and FTC teeth to say "The price advertised is the final, final, all-in price you pay" and the right to demand the product be delivered at that price if you were advertised a price. This should include limits on dynamic pricing which "whoops the price changed for the worse between when we showed it to you and when you drove to the store..."

    As an example related to Renting. I once saw a place advertised for rent at a price in my budget. Booked a showing the next day. The dynamic pricing increased it several hundred dollars above my budget. The land lord (company) would not honor the price I booked my showing at. I immediately left saying I do not do business with such dishonest practices.

    We also need to ban using the renters as a captured audience for products.

    Edit to add:

    When I last rented from a big corp I got:

    $5 a month semi-mandatory fee on automated payments through their app (as if them handling a check would actually cost them less than an automated payment)

    Mandatory internet package through a single provider.

    "Resort fee" of $30 a month which was more than the cost of a proximal gym providing 10x the equipment.

    Move in charge - $50 just to move in as if I was going to rent but not move in?

    Move out charge - $50 just to move out as if I was going to not move out when my lease ended?

    I also think rent raises after a year's lease should be limited . Why is the 13th month 100% more as if I'm not a long term renter? It makes some sense for short term rentals but this isnt a 1 month rental, it's a 1 month extension to a long term rent.

    1. etatester · · focus · HN ↗
      I don't have any hope for broad legislation that affects all businesses. Americans are so used to + tax + tips + convenience fees that doing anything else would hurt at both ends: consumers will claim inflation (oh that 8.99+30% burger is now 11.50? Tragedy) and businesses will mourn the loss of scam tactics that lets them earn more.
      1. anticorporate · · focus · HN ↗
        Retailer here. I would absolutely love all inclusive pricing legislation. Since we're not trying to screw our customers (we're a co-op, so our customers are also our owners), I'd love to be on a fairer playing field with frontline pricing from the businesses trying to lie, cheat, and steal their way to a higher margin.
        1. etatester · · focus · HN ↗
          Sadly for me you are the minority. A lot of businesses will try their best to squeeze their customers, see also the very popular shrinkflation.

          I am in an homogeneous country where taxes are the same everywhere and tips are not expected, but more and more businesses are printing their menus with +tax+service attached, suddenly hiding that their prices are actually 20% higher than listed. Completely unnecessary and sometimes fraudulent (oops forgot to mention it on the menu)

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