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1. VCFundedGenYer · 1790017285 · focus · HN ↗

   I want the disk space taken from the models back.

   I will never touch this garbage and would rather use the disk space I purchased to be used for my purposes, not the industry's pointless fad bubble endeavors.

   1. mort96 · 1790018375 · focus · HN ↗

      Absolutely 100%. Now I'm very biased against this "AI" stuff in general, but even fans of "AI" can't want this, right? I mean I know some people who are heavy "AI" users and they all either have a setup with Cursor/Codex/Zed/VSCode/whatever or their preferred local model, they'd never ever want to use "whatever Apple happens to ship with the OS". Same with the model Google bundled into their browser, growing Chrome from roughly 200MB to over 4GB. Who's the target audience here?

      It's investors isn't it.

      1. MarcScott · 1790018694 · focus · HN ↗

         No, there are a tonne of Apple users that aren't developers, that will probably love this. They'll currently be using paid subscriptions to OpenAI, but only via the web app, and will happily switch to using Apple Intelligence.

         1. mort96 · 1790019878 · focus · HN ↗

            Is Apple Intelligence's local models better than free ChatGPT?

            1. alwillis · 1790025553 · focus · HN ↗

               Wrong question, even though Siri AI has a plugin for ChatGPT you don’t need an account for, even if you have one.

               At the same time, ask stock ChatGPT when your next dentist appointment is. It can’t but Siri AI can.

               1. bigyabai · 1790037997 · focus · HN ↗

                  Real people don't need that. Siri has offered a modest set of voice-integrated features for over a decade, and made almost zero impact. Same for Google Assistant, which sucked less but was still useless.

                  The average smartphone owner cannot be trusted to switch away from privacy-degrading technologies even if the alternative is good. Look at Facebook, TikTok, YouTube, Spotify; it's a Keynesian beauty contest, and ChatGPT has more mindshare than Siri.

         2. dd8601fn · 1790024469 · focus · HN ↗

            I’m a developer.

            The pitch isn’t that it will replace claude or codex runing 284 agents vibeslopping for me. It’s that Siri is pretty damn good now, with safe access the data I kinda wish could be accessed safely by an assistant.

            It has a ways to go on some of the productivity stuff, and third parties have work to do, but that’s fine. They built a better foundation than anyone else has for its purpose.

            1. crooked-v · 1790036931 · focus · HN ↗

               All I really want out of Siri is something I can give actual natural language instructions to about smart home stuff, calendars, timers, "app stuff", without it actively leaking my info to other companies, and in theory this new Siri should be able to do that.

               Kinda slow, though. I'm hoping that's just early scaling problems.

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