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1. fnordpiglet · 1790014340 · focus · HN ↗

   I ask this in every thread on muse / OpenClaw / whatever platform. I’ve never gotten a clear answer beyond “yeah me too”:

   Does anyone have any meaningful use cases that have actually improved your life in some measurable way?

   I’ve tried hard and beyond filling out some tedious forms in about the same time and energy as just doing it myself, I’ve not personally. I’ve tried hard. So I figure it’s probably my lack of creativity given the prevalence of fans. But every time I ask, I get no meaningful responses. So it makes me wonder if all the fans are just product managers on those products?

   1. fragmede · 1790016138 · focus · HN ↗

      > use cases that have actually improved your life in some measurable way?

      "actually" and "measurable" are, to pardon the Claudism, load bearing. If something made my life better in some imperceptible way that makes me happy, why the need to force metric on it? Not having to call Comcast to fake threaten to cancel service made me THREE happier and SEVEN less angsty. That pretty picture made me FOUR smilier. It makes me wonder if we can't just have nice things.

      1. nancyminusone · 1790018836 · focus · HN ↗

         >in some imperceptible way

         How do you know it has or has not improved your situation if imperceptible?

      2. fnordpiglet · 1790036936 · focus · HN ↗

         Measurement doesn’t have to be in a metric space, it can be relative. This tree is taller than that bush is a measurement. I am happier today than yesterday because of my agentic harness is a measurement. A metric space is in some ways useful but neither necessary nor superior to a relative measurement.

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