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Fable 5 – Median thinking declined in August

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  1. talon8635 · · focus · HN ↗
    Could there be a benefit to releasing a new model, slowly dumbing it down over a couple months, then releasing a new model that’s marginally if at all better than the original to create a perceived improvement when in reality there isn’t really one?

    For an industry that’s stagnant in progress yet relies on new frequent releases to survive (non-progress being an existential risk), this could make sense.

    I have no idea if that’s what’s happened, I completely pulled it out of my butt. And I have no idea is the actual frontier is stagnating.

    1. nxc18 · · focus · HN ↗
      There must be some benefit if all the providers are doing it independently.

      GPT5.6-Sol on Max thinking just became regarded as of a few days ago.

      The boosters will tell me it’s my fault for using such an old, cheap out-of-date low quality near useless wish.com model (that was SOTA and better than human coders one month ago).

      The cycle repeats.

      1. bitexploder · · focus · HN ↗
        They obviously test various quants and other serving cost saving strategies. Models like Fable are probably trillions parameters with hundreds of billions active MoE. They probably try to squeeze and quant each piece until people notice.
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